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 Post subject: Newspiece on S&S Auction
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 6:01 pm 

Newspiece from the old hometown paper. Interesting to see how outsiders view such events.

http://www.katyrailroad.org/images/mktstm311.jpg
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 Post subject: Wrong Link !!!! *NM*
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 8:02 pm 

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 Post subject: Here's another
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:13 pm 

Can't find the original now (Greeley Tribune), but here's another, with highly innacurate facts, from the Breckenridge area. An interesting look at the "let's get an old train for our museum" phenomena by locals unversed in RR subjects. They apparently did get the 111.

http://www.summitdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73105179361828&Avis=SD&Dato=20020719&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=207190103&Ref=AR
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 Post subject: #111/#537
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:47 pm 

Interesting..."The only steam locomotive on the face of the earth coming up for auction"?
I know I can think of a few others recently.

Anyway, Anyone know what engine #537 that was dismantled in the mid-west they are talking about?

Allan

ddg14@msn.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: #111/#537
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:50 pm 

The 537 was an outside frame 2-8-0 on the Burlington's narrow gauge in the Black Hills. When that line was abandoned in 1930, it was sent south to the C&S narrow gauge lines in Colorado for use on the South Park line to Leadville. Arriving as an oil burner, it was rebuilt at the C&S/CB&Q joint shops in Denver, converted to coal and swapped tenders with C&S 2-8-0 70, which was converted to oil burning for the shorter run to Blackhawk and Silver Plume. The 537 was scrapped some time around the end of South Park operations. Though I'm not sure of actual dimensions, Nos. 111 and 537 are quite similar in basic appearance, the main difference being the add-on piston valves on the 111, a modification done by the IRCA shops in Guatemala City.

> Interesting..."The only steam
> locomotive on the face of the earth coming
> up for auction"?
> I know I can think of a few others recently.

> Anyway, Anyone know what engine #537 that
> was dismantled in the mid-west they are
> talking about?

> Allan


CB&Q 537 - 1937
ryarger@rypn.org


  
 
 Post subject: 111 is newer
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:59 pm 

No. 111 is also somewhat newer, and has outside counterweights, whereas the main driver counterweights on the 537 are on the wheels themselves.

No. 111
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 Post subject: #537 revisited
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:44 pm 

> The 537 was an outside frame 2-8-0 on the
> Burlington's narrow gauge in the Black
> Hills. When that line was abandoned in 1930,
> it was sent south to the C&S narrow
> gauge lines in Colorado for use on the South
> Park line to Leadville. Arriving as an oil
> burner, it was rebuilt at the
> C&S/CB&Q joint shops in Denver,
> converted to coal and swapped tenders with
> C&S 2-8-0 70, which was converted to oil
> burning for the shorter run to Blackhawk and
> Silver Plume. The 537 was scrapped some time
> around the end of South Park operations.
> Though I'm not sure of actual dimensions,
> Nos. 111 and 537 are quite similar in basic
> appearance, the main difference being the
> add-on piston valves on the 111, a
> modification done by the IRCA shops in
> Guatemala City.

The newest "Bulrington Bulletin" (official publication of the BRHS) has a complete history of Deadwood Central/CB&Q #537. It was researched and well-written by Hol Wagner. Pick one up and enjoy it if you get a chance.
Don C.

old_fxrs@msn.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: "inaccurate facts"
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 11:21 pm 

> Can't find the original now (Greeley
> Tribune), but here's another, with highly
> innacurate facts, from the Breckenridge
> area.

Seems the newspaper writer also got the history of WP&YR #69 somehow wrapped up in his write-up.

Engine #111 according to J. David Conrad's "The Steam Locomotive Directory of North America" was never in Alaska or Nebraska. It seems that the newspaper has the engine confused with WP&YR #69. The #69 was another outside frame 2-8-0. It started out in Alaska, then moved to South Dakota and then onto Nebraska.

#111 according to Conrad was built by BLW 4/1926 as cn #59164
Built as #116 and renumbered in 1928 to #111 sold 2/1972

2-8-0 drivers 35"
cylinders 18x20
Boiler Press 180#
TE....24,730
EW...102,800
WOD...96,800

Brian Norden



bnorden49@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Newspiece on S&S Auction
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:39 am 

> Newspiece from the old hometown paper.
> Interesting to see how outsiders view such
> events.

Perhaps this is it?

http://www.greeleytrib.com/article.php?sid=9630
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 Post subject: They also bought some track
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:47 am 

I understand they also bought quite a bit of the rail too. Something about relaying some track to a nearby town??
S'
David D.


djdewey@cncnet.com


  
 
 Post subject: David Conrad and the 111
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:47 am 

David,

There are a lot of steam engines moving around these days. Such as this narrow gauge example now going to Breckenfidge Colorado, I guess as a door mat for a gambleing casino.

Have you been keeping your pencil and note book
close to hand ?

Ted Miles

ted_miles@nps.gov


  
 
 Post subject: Re: David Conrad and the 111
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2002 11:43 pm 

Dear Ted:
Indeed I have, rypn is just about the only site that I get good information from on a regular basis.
At this time I am working on a locomotive restoration project in El Paso and since it is too bloody hot to do much in the evening, I have been working on "The Book" a couple of nights each week.
My friend, Alixe Cielo has also been helping out with data entry and trying to track down current street addresses for display locomotives, etc.
Thank you for your interest.
J. David


jdconrad@snet.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: David Conrad and the 111
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 1:30 am 

> I have been working on "The Book"
> a couple of nights each week.
> My friend, Alixe Cielo has also been helping
> out with data entry and trying to track down
> current street addresses for display
> locomotives, etc.

David:

If any of use have information we want to share with you about changes, etc. what is the best way of getting it to you?

Brian Norden

bnorden49@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: David Conrad and the 111
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2002 5:43 pm 

Dear David:

Glad to hear that you have got your talented hands on another steam locomotive.

also glad to hear that you are thinking about another edition some day.

Why did you go to Texas in July? how about December? TM

ted_miles@nps.gov


  
 
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