I ran up on something similar. My home computer, which is coal-fired, has issues with the latest version of "Adobe Flash". It played OK on my work computer, it's a first generation diesel.....:)

iOS products, flash works on all Macs

Thank you for the clarification.

No problem, a lot of us around here aren't just steam fans, but also Mac junkies.

Guess I'll have to wait to see it...seems my old coal-fired computer (to borrow from Gary) doesn't have enough horsepower to run the latest Adobe Flash player. Maybe it's time to go shopping!

I have an app called Cloud Browse which will let you visit Flash sites without jailbreaking the phone. It operates a Firefox browser remotely on their servers and transmits the screen content back to the phone in an iOS-compatible way. I got it when it was free for limited use. Now they want money for it and as a free user I'm not in a position to say it's worth it or not. But it seems to work, even streaming live video. (Check the reviews; people were complaining about the newer versions.) It's a kludge to be sure but can be helpful.

Steve

I was pleased to see the design of the 21st century steam website and the information and explanations found on it. If anyone involved with the website is reading this, there is one error I believe should be corrected. Under the drop-down heading of smoke and steam within "HOW A STEAM LOCOMOTIVE OPERATES," it states that: "A steam locomotive working at full capacity can be pulling as much as 500 cubic feet of air per second, per square foot of grate, through the firebox." If that were true, that would be about 35000
cubic feet of air per second through a 70 square foot grate area, a virtual impossibility. It should read ".....as 500 cubic feet of air per second through the firebox."

LOL. Well we all know that locomotive boilers are overdriven by design! :)

Yes, it looks like 4501 will be black. Too bad for those of us whose nostalgia goes back to the old steam program but not all the way back to actual freight operations which ended in 1953.

Alas, sticklerism for accuracy to old regular service, as opposed to fully company-sanctioned passenger excursion service, means we will never, ever see a live SR steam locomotive in green and gold since the only passenger engine extant is locked up in the Smithsonian.

And if the sticklers cannot stand the idea of a genuine SR engine in green due to its freight heritage they would surely go ballistic over the thought of some non-SR USRA style Pacific done over in SR trappings despite the fact that there was once such a proposal with the sanction of the Chairman. (They were not able to get the engine so it never happened.)

But I fully concede that black goes better with Tuscan cars.

Steve

Ugh, that site is very 2000.

Flash only, proprietary navigation, not following web standards, etc...

Awesome program, crappy website. Sorry!

Well there's always a certain CN pacific that's quite similar to a Ps-4 at a certain largely Southern oriented museum mentioned several times in this thread that'd be a great candidate. ;)

But gosh it would be unauthentic to paint her in anything other than CN colors. Or are you suggesting that some folks zeal for authenticity is limited to intra-SR color transactions?

Steve

More recent photos of the 4501 work have been posted here:

http://www.pbase.com/kd4jsl/4501shop

Steve

I have to say I disagree on the site design. A site that is nothing but Flash is a poor idea. It is far more bandwidth, processor, memory and video intensive. It is cute but inefficient. Hundreds of sites are successful with HTML and a bit of flash her and there. If a use has an older monitor, the site will not fit on their screen because it will not resize. Flash is a memory hog and it gets worse the longer you are on the site until it eventually crashes itself, or the browser along with it. Oh, and the music got annoying pretty quick.

As for the content, it is pretty good and plays well to the layman but with good information for the railfan. However, the site breaks a fundamental rule by not directly answering the question "What is 21st Century Steam". I still do not know the answer to that question.

Overall, the kid's will love it if the adults can figure out why it won't work right on their computer.

Regardless of color everything will be fine as long as she steams down the mainline again.

As far as the website, from my perspective it's a bit heavy on flash. A little goes a long way and it's overkill to me and not particularly user friendly from a navigation standpoint.

When I stated I was pleased with the desigfn, I perhaps used the incorrrect terminology since I was referring more to the content than the layout. I appreciated the fact that there was information included on how a steam locomotive worked, which is the kind of information, if I were a non-railfan who had just taken a ride behind a steam locomotive on the NS, that would really get my interest. and cause me to do more searching on the subject.