My name is Julie Gubbin. I'm currently involved in a project to relocate the original passengers depot and a section building from Shoreham yard in

Northeast Minneapolis. We have also been offered the old water towers and a retired Soo Line boxcar.

I was awarded some federal funds through the Empowerment Zone for this project, but still need twice as much as we have, at least $150,000. We

are looking for volunteers and creative idea's to move the water towers and to also come up with enough funds to move the other structures and restore

them. It's very costly to move buildings, but if they are not moved they will be demolished. Canadian Pacific has demolition permits for both buildings

and both water towers.

The buildings will be used for such purposes: The depot, as an antique store and an information center for NE Minneapolis arts and entertainment.

The section building, as a Northeast railroad museum for Soo Line, Canadian Pacfic and Burlington Northern. The boxcar, as an art gallery and a

stage for community arts events. And we're still looking for idea's for the water towers! Possibly a look out tower for trains?

I'd appreciate any idea's or feedback. Please contact me at antiquified@aol.com

Although I do not have an answering machine hooked up at this time, you can also try to reach me at home at 612-789-9014.

Thanks,

Julie

dc3n21782@yahoo.com

Thoughts? Although I'm not crazy about the reuse ideas (especially of the boxcar), to ignore or dismiss this cry for help would be to fly in the face of what we all believe. The question is; where would you start? We've moved a car, and are looking at moving a structure ourselves, so I'm somewhat interested in what everyone's answers will be.

TJG

> My name is Julie Gubbin. I'm currently
> involved in a project to relocate the
> original passengers depot and a section
> building from Shoreham yard in

> Northeast Minneapolis. We have also been
> offered the old water towers and a retired
> Soo Line boxcar.

> I was awarded some federal funds through the
> Empowerment Zone for this project, but still
> need twice as much as we have, at least
> $150,000. We

> are looking for volunteers and creative
> idea's to move the water towers and to also
> come up with enough funds to move the other
> structures and restore

> them. It's very costly to move buildings,
> but if they are not moved they will be
> demolished. Canadian Pacific has demolition
> permits for both buildings

> and both water towers.

> The buildings will be used for such
> purposes: The depot, as an antique store and
> an information center for NE Minneapolis
> arts and entertainment.

> The section building, as a Northeast
> railroad museum for Soo Line, Canadian
> Pacfic and Burlington Northern. The boxcar,
> as an art gallery and a

> stage for community arts events. And we're
> still looking for idea's for the water
> towers! Possibly a look out tower for
> trains?

> I'd appreciate any idea's or feedback.
> Please contact me at antiquified@aol.com

> Although I do not have an answering machine
> hooked up at this time, you can also try to
> reach me at home at 612-789-9014.

> Thanks,

> Julie


Port Huron Museum

tjgaffney@phmuseum.org

There's a limited amount of grant money available from the National Railway Historical Society --

see NRHS.com.

The bad news is the next round of grants won't be awarded until summer of 2003 and the amount of money NRHS can provide in grants is limited to the amount the organization received in donations for its grant program.

Bob H

Heavenrich@yahoo.com

Moving intact (or trimmed buildings) requires INSURANCE and specialized equipment as well as experience ...especially if you must move on public highways. We "relocated" the 1850's Oberlin,OH Depot 12 miles away to Wellington,OH. The building was completely disassembled by a professional and hauled by truck to the new site and reassembled (45ft x 90ft). If it can be done this way your costs go way down (sweat equity). The job was made easier because the building was post and beam,the professional also rated the quality of the pieces parts and was able to match some bad parts from his collection of old building parts. We also did the site and foundation work, saving more money.

lamontdc@adelphia.net

> Moving intact (or trimmed buildings)
> requires INSURANCE and specialized equipment
> as well as experience ...especially if you
> must move on public highways. We
> "relocated" the 1850's Oberlin,OH
> Depot 12 miles away to Wellington,OH. The
> building was completely disassembled by a
> professional and hauled by truck to the new
> site and reassembled (45ft x 90ft). If it
> can be done this way your costs go way down
> (sweat equity). The job was made easier
> because the building was post and beam,the
> professional also rated the quality of the
> pieces parts and was able to match some bad
> parts from his collection of old building
> parts. We also did the site and foundation
> work, saving more money.

When you say a professional, did you hire a professional or was this someone who volunteered their expertise? Also, how much did this move cost and who provided the funding?

Thank you for your kind replies

Anyone know just what is going on at Shoreham Shops? When I was there for training in '99, the RR had just about moved out, leaving only one building in use (coach shop?) on one side of what had been a transfer table. I think it was used by the signal department and for traction motor repair. The roundhouse was about 3/4 intact (as it had been for years) and in good shape, though the turntable was removed (I've heard it was re-installed in Iowa). The former backshop (where Soo Line built 4-8-2s at one time) was used by a steel company, and another building with a large overhead crane looked unused.

I've since heard that the roundhouse was saved by local historical society folks, but haven't been able to get any details. It would seem if it is considered a historic property, the water tanks and other buildings should simply stay. However, as an employee of a CPR/Soo Line subsidiary, I know that common sense seldom enters into these things.

2719 at Shoreham
ryarger@rypn.org

> When you say a professional, did you hire a
> professional ... Yes, the gentleman that we hired to do most of the teardown and rebuild was a professional. The railroad group provided the grunt labor and built the foundation at "his" direction. The cost was right around $70K ... $35K from the RR and $35K from a local foundation interested in preserving local history. This included a new metal roof, the ancient slate turned to dust when we tried to salvage it. The unpinning and repinning of the post & beam structure of the building ... 12x12 bottom sills, 8x8 posts and trusses would have been a disaster if attempted by someone unfamiliar with such work.

lamontdc@adelphia.net