Flying Yankee and her Winton reunited

Stephen Hussar · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 8:12 am

This restoration is really moving along with the installation of the Yankee's Winton engine.

Is it true this the only known operable Winton 201 out there?

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Erik Ledbetter · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:30 am

> Is it true this the only known operable
> Winton 201 out there?

MOT's Sabine River & Northern no.408 still has her Winton 201A V12. Don't know if she's operable or not. Maybe Ron Goldfelder can tell us.

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Erik Ledbetter · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:32 am

Also Dardanelle & Russellville 14 EMC SC switcher at IRM has an 8-201A; again, don't know if operable.

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Rob Davis · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 10:33 am

There's been a lot of discussion on this project over on the B&M Yahoo Group, with more than a few folks miffed over the decision to use the original prime mover.

As with any project relating to a rare piece from a regional road, there has been a lot of foam out there.

I've been a donor to the project at the start, and I am glad to see her coming along. I think the guys have done some really nice work.

Rob

> This restoration is really moving along with
> the installation of the Yankee's Winton
> engine.

> Is it true this the only known operable
> Winton 201 out there?

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Ron Goldfeder · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:17 am

The Museum of Transportation in St. Louis has three items with Winton 201 series engines still in them. These are the twin-engined B&O #50 (EMC 1935-first non-articulated passenger diesel), Sabine River & Northern EMC Model SC switcher (1937-only five built), and B&M #1180 gas-electric (EMC 1926), which also has a Winton engine. The SC switcher engine has been operated in the past and could be again, but we have no need to use it with newer units without such a rare engine available.

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Phil Mulligan · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:26 pm

I believe IRM has a skid-mounted 8-201 in one of their biuldings. Dunno if it runs.

Does the Pioneer Zephyr still have its 201?

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Erik Ledbetter · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:52 pm

> Does the Pioneer Zephyr still have its 201?

It's original 201 was given to the Smithsonian and used to have an honored place in the Railroad Hall at MAH in Washington DC. I have no idea where it will be, or if it will be on display at all, in the new "America on the Move" transportation exhibit.

Don't know what replaced the original 201 (if anything) in the P-Z as now displayed at MSI in Chicago.

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Boyd Owens · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:25 pm

The Zephyr still has it's replacement 201A in it.
Below photo was taken during it's restoration at Northern Railcar.

Boyd

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Randall Hicks · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 1:29 pm

> It's original 201 was given to the
> Smithsonian and used to have an honored
> place in the Railroad Hall at MAH in
> Washington DC. I have no idea where it will
> be, or if it will be on display at all, in
> the new "America on the Move"
> transportation exhibit.

> Don't know what replaced the original 201
> (if anything) in the P-Z as now displayed at
> MSI in Chicago.

The original prime mover was changed out by the Burlington when the Zephyr was being shopped at some point during its service life. The replacement 201 is still in the power car, repainted and on display. It seems to me there was an article about MSI on RyPN a couple of years ago which included a picture of it. But it's disappeared.

Rob Davis · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:22 pm

Ron,

Can you give us a quick description of B&M 1180's status and post B&M history?

Thanks!

Rob Davis

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Ron Goldfeder · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:27 pm

The car was sold to the St. Mary's RR in Georgia in the mid-1940s and donated by them in 1962. They never could afford to replace the Winton engine, so it was still there. Its body is intact but I must say I've never been inside it, so I can't comment on the interior condition. It's under cover and awaiting its turn for restoration work. I'm sure someone with B&M knowledge can add to this. I do know the engine is a six cylinder model that took distillate fuel.

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Brian Norden · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:58 pm

There are some older Winton diesels out there in use. These are on New York Circle Line excursion boats converted from Coast Gaurd Cutters.

There is a website devoted to Circle Line XI; appearently set up by her engineer. Built in 1932 as USCGC Calypso (WPC-104) the vessel still has its original propulsion diesels -- two Winton 158-6 engines. Reportedly, Circle Line XV, ex-USCGC Perseus (WPC-114), still has its Wintons.

On the website there other information on Winton diesels are presented. Included are illustrations probably from Winton or GM promotional material.

M/V Circle Line XI: ex-USCGC Calypso, WPC-104