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 Post subject: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:13 am 

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Location: San Pedro CA
I want the CF7 a draw a Electric draw at a in complete. The is a at 6 page. (A covers to Wires a square box a was wire,7 digit,It a look (A the wire size). The a Box at a 7 digit,A the a follow item it Governor, The resistor, the control system it cab. Box a 40 item a the spot.
Is 2451 to a Mississippi Delta R.R 802. A did help MDRR. The MDRR for not electric a 3 pin but a 27 pin. F7 the did Carrizo Gorge a Jacumba,CA. Was a Carrizo Gorge is electric 3 pin a with from power to not at lead a do 27 pin.

The a MDRR at a the print. A the CGRW in copy.






2451

F7A 234L BCTCW

F7A 234L BYTCB

CF7 2451 BYW2
CF7
rebuilt from
F7A
F7A information:
builder: EMD5,8,10,13
date: Apr507,13 /
Mar-May505,8,de122
serial no.: 95917,10,13
frame no.: 3020-A157,13
order no.: 30205,10 /
3020A7,8,de122
CF7 information:
builder: ATSF
Cleburne TX 34,x61,x88
date: 7Jul77x61,x88
ex-F7A 234L x61:
see F7A roster for details
• paint: BCTCW,
repainted: 234L date :
• paint: BYTCB;
rebuilt / renumbered / repainted: to CF7
2451 2,34,x61,x88 7Jul77x61,x88,
• paint: BYW22
• side sills:
• exhaust stacks: four2
• cab roof: "Cleburne" angled2
• side windows:
• engineer's window:
• horns:
• air conditioner: in cab2
• radio antenna:
retired: Dec84x88;
traded: to General Electric2,34,x88
Dec842 for B23-7series and B39-82;
sold: to National Railway Equipment Co
[D]2,34,x88 May85x88;
sold: to Columbus & Greenville Ry
Co7,x88 Jul85x88:
renumbered: CAGY 8027,34,x88


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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:52 pm 

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I'm going to take a stab and say the OP is putting their original text into a translator to reprint it here in English?

...at least I hope that's the case....


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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:35 pm 

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he wants a drawing for a CF7 electrical wiring. probably for a control box...take it from there Chet


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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:09 am 

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If any of you men have a detailed drawing of the P-N 27 pin MU plugs, I am also searching for that info. I need a blueprint for it, so it can be recreated in a smaller size and still be 100% accurate, so it needs to be quality accurate info. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:25 pm 

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The old 3 MU a 2-4 of 2-4 a why to of total 4 engines pull a the a line. The CF7 will a the 3 MU scrap the wires do a MU 27 to CF7 a Loco's did via is the couple will a new to loco.
The a GP9,ALCo,GE a other in O.K. While the a I want. The F7A a 2451 the Cf7 2451 the to MDRR at 802. This is also a print a set I a is for loco.

This is 6-5 a draw a E-mail a attachment.

Old the 3 wire MU a did a electric a 4 engine 1-4 (Lead a 3 follow between the it.
The new 27 MU a 5-7 a between.

The NEW a is at EMD,GE a wire at to 27 MU like a loco at factory a need.

Owen S. Paulsen


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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:10 am 

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following this the 2751 was a santa fe unit which would be now on the York Railway as 1500, the CF7 is a modification of a standard F7 unit. There may have been electrical reconfigurations for the MU. What it sounds like our friend here is a shop man on the York looking to do repair/modification or find some matching electrical to do some repairs, they have GP7s there, but the mods may make the CF7's incompatible with the older Geeps. A shout to BNSF (look for the Santa Fe shops that did this conversion in their Cleburne Texas shops). You would wonder if technical info would also get moved with the engines thru their selling for the new owners shop purposes.


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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:41 am 

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I'm going to take a WILD guess here, and suggest that "3 pin" refers to the obsolete EMD "field loop" jumpers for dynamic braking.

As for what the actual question was, I have no idea............

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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:55 am 

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This gentleman asked some similar questions on another forum some time ago. I directed him to the wiring diagrams that were published in the CF-7 book, but apparently that wasn't what he was looking for. I think at the time he was looking for details of a particular junction box or panel. I believe he is with one of the museums out west, and not with Yorkrail. And only the first CF-7 had DB; that unit is no longer around, so the field loop explanation may not apply. With the exception of B- on pin 19, the MU followed standard AAR recommendations, IIRC.

The CF-7s were wired to be very similar to a GP-7, as opposed to the F units from whence they came. No field shunting, and the 'teaser' excitation when in 'switching' mode- ATSF used them for switching and local power, not so much as road units, so copying the GP-7 electrically was entirely appropriate,

Not much help here, I will admit...


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 Post subject: Re: Do did a for 3 pin a that 27 alone
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:33 am 

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APTA standards for 27-pin receptacle wiring assignment:

http://www.apta.com/resources/standards ... 017-99.pdf

The identity chart is on page 14 of 28. This of course shows a "full feature" pin assignment as used on a passenger locomotive, the typical freight locomotive has fewer features.

If the locomotive that is the subject of the question is in fact an operable locomotive on a G&W subsidiary, I am surprised to see this on RYPN. The G&W has/had a number of CF7 units, and the best technical support talent for them at this point is probably right within the company.

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