Two heavyweights, don't know their original roads, looked a bit rough in 2011 and I'm sure sitting ten years didn't help.

NS 3322 -

Great! Thanks for all the roster info. Especially glad to hear that CNW #336 is still around. Hopefully someone will save it. I have heard that IRM in Union was very interested in the C&NW car (#284) that was donated to Hoosier Valley. And here is a sister car from the same series.

Keeping my fingers crossed!

PMC - Thanks for the photo of 1102.

Les

I found a photo of it from 2012, back then it was in a cut of cars in Hooper NE:

Matt is correct, N&W/NS never used these cars as part of an excursion consist. They were converted to power cars for business car trains and later used in MofW consists. This particular car can be found in the great N&WHS database as converted from a former NKP boxcar in 1972.

https://www.nwhs.org/data/passenger/view.php?ID=1710

Best
Ken Miller

Sometimes we treat IRM like the rich uncle who can afford anything (so why is he buying us a book for Christmas?) which is a mistake, they have the same cost concerns as everyone else, just on a bigger scale. But this car would seem like an obvious one, especially given their emphasis on the C&NW in their collection, and they are located adjacent to a C&NW branch. If they could only grab the M&StL bulkhead flat at the same time...

Maybe someone can help me out here. I remember taking a trip to Nebraska when I was teen in the 80's. I visited a tourist train with a steam engine but it was pouring rain that day so I didn't get to ride. I don't remember the location but I was in Lincoln, Nebraska the day earlier and would have likely been a few hours from there. I know Nebraska doesn't have many excursion trains so should be a easy one to figure out.

Possibly the Purple Martin Dinner Train in Atlantic, Iowa? That operation wasn't too far from Council Bluffs, and thus Nebraska. Back in the eighties they had a Burlington Hudson on display (now at IRM). I don't recall what they ran.

Tom F -

I think there was a narrow gauge operation using White Pass & Yukon 2-8-0 #69. Don't think that was in operation very long and the Consolidation eventually went back to Alaska.

Now that I think of it, wasn't there an operation using Duluth & Northeastern 2-8-0 # 14 at one time? That Consol eventually ended up out west (California?).

But, maybe neither of these operations were in Nebraska!

Les

The Stuhr operation of WP&Y 69 ran from 1976 to 1990

I believe the 1702, now at Great Smokey Mountains, was in operation on the FEVR in the 1980's. The building in Hooper was build to store her.

Thank you for the responses. I will have to research those railroads.

Here are some notes on the passenger cars:

FEVR 1101 was built as Pullman Lake Bluff.

FEVR 1102 was built as Pullman Fort Andrews.

Additional Lot & Plan information is available here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30187&start=90

The in-service information I have (from Arthur Dubin’s, Some Classic Trains, Seventh Printing 1976, p. 166) shows that these cars were built for the C&NW’s Chicago-Twin Cities North Western Limited. They wore C&NW green with sliver Pullman lettering in service except between 1928 and 1939 when they wore Pullman Green. Some C&NW heavyweight Pullmans were later reclassified as coaches and wore a simplified yellow and green – I do not know if these cars were included in that group.

This October, 2011 video shows the interior of the cars and the experience of riding the train: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iteehim2y8Q

While the cars have lost most of their interior partitions and almost all of their sections, the seating arrangement did put the cars to good use. They would be attractive for a museum/tourist railroad looking for cars with an adaptable floorplan for a Polar Express-type events. The mostly open interior would allow for modern HVAC hardware to be added without further compromising the historic integrity.

This June, 2010 video shows the interior of N&W 410, noting that it was equipped with a 75kw Caterpillar D330 Genset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l1hiJUTcN4

This rrpicturearchives set shows photos of Florida & Atlantic 18 in storage along with exhibits inside the Fremont station: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiv ... x?id=25746

Here are a few newspaper articles and Trainorders.com threads that have additional information:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120818022 ... 963f4.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20210614192 ... e4b1d.html


https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/ ... ?1,3828051

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/ ... 11,4332631