Locomotives preserved in large numbers?

kevin kohls · **Joined:** Tue May 03, 2005 8:35 pm **Posts:** 298

C&O 2-10-4’s had been replaced by the 2-6-6-6 and were retired in 1952 and 1953. I wish they would have saved one too . A L2a popper valve Hudson would have been nice and a 0-8-0 as well. Hudson’s were done and sidelined in 1953 almost brand new. Some of the switchers went to Korea, none survive. Kevin K

PaulWWoodring · **Posted:** Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:23 am

There is a very nice inch-and-a-half scale C&O 2-10-4 in Michigan, as well as a C&O Hudson. The problem with the Texas Type is the minimum radius curves required for it to operate, usually with yard trackage. I'm afraid that is as good as it is probably ever going to get in terms of an operating example.

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:06 pm

I believe C&O L-1 4-6-4 490 has Franklin oscillating cam (OC) poppet valves similar to a PRR T1. The bigger L-2a 4-6-4's of 1948 had Franklin rotary cam (RC) poppet valves, similar to PRR 5500 as rebuilt.

The RC valves had an outside drive shaft running from the main driver to the valve chest. With OC poppets (such as 490) the drive mechanism is either on the pilot beam or between the front drivers on a 4-cylinder divided drive engine.

Phil Mulligan

Shogo Takizawa · **Joined:** Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:10 pm **Posts:** 24

EJ Berry wrote:

An interesting episode occurred during WWII. USS Barb (SS 220) had run out of ship targets but the crew noted a railway along the shore. They planted a bomb and detonated it under a locomotive, destroying the train. Power was probably a D51 2-8-2.

Phil Mulligan

Phil,

Thank you for the clarification and additional episode. The incident you are referring to I believe occurred in July 1945, which would mean that the power of that train would definitely not be a D51. The engines arrived in Sakhalin in 1949 as part of a post-war deal between the USSR and Japan. The power of the train that was destroyed is most likely one of the 11 JNR 9600 class 2-8-0s that were stationed in Southern Karafuto at the time.

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:58 pm

Thank you for clarifying. As well as D51's, there was a large number of 9600 2-8-0's in Hokkaido in 1970, especially in the North, possibly where D51's were too large. The looked like good engines.

Phil Mulligan

tom moungovan · **Posted:** Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:11 pm

Of the 2,700 some odd Shay locomotives built, there were 24 Pacific Coast type if my
memory is on today. Of that 24, I think that 5 of them are preserved. One is at Cass, the Pickering 11 is at Mineral, WA, the former Klickitat 7 moved down to CA recently and Rayonier's 10 spot is still on display in Forks, WA. I cannot recall the other .

Of the 33 Willamette geared locomotives built, 6 survive today.
Medco 7 in Dunsmuir, CA right off of I-5
Medco 4 in Medford, OR being restored
Crown Willamette 6 is under cover in WA
Rayonier 2 is with the Pickering 11 in Mineral, WA and was rebuilt and operated for several years.
Rayonier 4 is on display next to the Hwy in Port Angeles, WA
Anaconda Copper 7 is now at the Fort Museum in downtown Missoula, MT

All but Rayonier 2 are the 70-3 class in both non superheated and superheated examples.
The Rayonier 2 is a 75-3 example and has 1/2" bigger bores in the cylinders. Neither of the 50-2 two truckers were saved. They were neat little machines with a 13" stroke instead of 12" like the same size Shay.