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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2024 11:32 am 

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Eventually, we'll have to take a look at the Canadian Pacific and Wisconsin Central maroons as well but for now, I believe we've got this one...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 8:52 am 

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Sorry guys, I had to do a little Monday morning editing. LOL This 1940 Ford is actually Garnet Maroon which is a quite a bit lighter than Mandarin/Monsoon Maroon...

https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetai ... 225-53012M


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:09 am 

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What the heck, I can't get in too much trouble just posting more early fleet maroon alternative example pictures so here's Ford Coach Maroon. I don't have a chip for this one but it's pretty darn dark...

https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetai ... 225-31847M


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:20 am 

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Both Chrysler and General Motors used Regent Maroon which is the darkest maroon chip I have on hand...

https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetai ... t=93-2192M

The paler yellows such as cream do combine well with the dark maroons like on this 1935 Chevy...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:22 am 

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Dodge Truck State Maroon is another dark fleet maroon from the early days...

https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcoded ... 06&rows=50

I couldn't find any photos but here it is on a Ditzler/PPG Intermix chart a few chips above Regent Maroon. Cabana Cream is a thirties Chevy color along with DuPont 93-530 Cream Medium and looks like it could be same as the slightly brighter 93-5925 Cream. I still like Dusty Gray for the B&O and additional research is required on that particular Harbormist Gray since there's more than one of them to do additional research on... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:37 am 

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Chevy Truck Bordeaux Maroon is lighter than Regent Maroon but not much...

https://paintref.com/cgi-bin/paintdetai ... t=93-1859M

PaintRef doesn't officially have it listed as a fleet color at the present time but I'm posting it anyway just because...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 5:51 pm 

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The last time I made a fool out of myself with maroons was back on Page 25 trying to peg one of them as the PRR's Tuscan Red which could be considered more of an orange-red or a brownish maroon. Be that as it may, Chevy Truck Cape Maroon is the next lightest in the 1954 catalog after Dodge Truck Rio Maroon.

I needed a good method to more accurately photograph all these dark chips to better capture their true colors so I thought I'd try out a quickie experimental dark gray posterboard mask.

On the left is Rio Maroon by itself and with Chrysler DT3008 from the Dodge Truck Special Colors fan deck. Monsoon Maroon is on the top right and Cape Maroon is on the bottom right...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:28 pm 

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Here's the Cape Maroon alternative example picture I had posted before but now featuring a minor amount of color correction... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2024 12:35 pm 

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I got the Pullman Guide back out today. Ford Moselle Maroon now appears ever-so-slightly darker than Dodge Truck Rio Maroon but both of them compare favorably to Pullman 70-90 Soo Line maroon with Rio Maroon perhaps having a bit of an advantage. Also, since it was handy, 10-105 Southern Pacific red better matches the lighter of the two Socony Reds, General Motors WE5884...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:01 pm 

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Bordeaux Maroon and Swift Red look good on the Chicago Great Western and they're both conveniently located together under the Chevy chip section in the 1946 truck catalog...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2024 9:37 am 

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On the GMC side, Regent Maroon and Pimpernel Scarlet might look good also... LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 8:23 pm 

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Swift Red and Bordeaux Maroon seem to line up pretty well with the photo and each other while Regent Maroon looks just a little too dark...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 8:31 pm 

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Desaturated, Regent Maroon appears almost black but Bordeaux Maroon will emit that weird purple-gray color...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:00 am 

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Uh oh, according to the list, the Soo Line actually used 014 Imitation Gold, a.k.a. Duco 254-54292. That should push the maroon more toward a darker color like Ford Monsoon Maroon...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Examples of the Reading's Postwar Paint Colo
PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:12 am 

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On the other hand, the CGW did use Reading/Lackawanna Yellow, Duco 254-54388, so the Dulux 1290 Venetian Yellow chip should drop right in there, which it does...


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