Yes, I too would hate to see it down but right now everyone is tight on funds for restoring and the costs + government make it almost unthinkable. We have the old train station which was awarded as a Heritage site and given protection only to have that protection include no repair or maintenance, This means that we can not even place a plaque on it. It needed around $100,000. face lift at the time but now it would cost near $600,000.... It is now doomed to die.

The roundhouse turntable was removed prior to our possession and was filled in with bricks from a Nun's residence. We had to cover over the top windows and place an exhaust system in, the windows were all broken anyway.

There is over 380 12"X18"X22+ foot Fir beams, well over 1 million bricks and it covers 46,000 square feet of usable space not including risers and coal bins. It had a 110 foot chimney but had to be cut down due to safety issues.

In 1986 we had two new locomotives nearly go through the building on their way to Expo at Vancouver. There was nearly a half million dollars of damage to their under bellies as it ripped off a few computer systems and forced CN to delay unveiling them for another 2 weeks till they could be fixed in Edmonton.

Biggar is located 60 miles east of Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada. Saskatoon is the largest city in Saskatchewan but is still 1/3 the size of Calgary.

Kevin

For archeology, there's a neat foundation of the Welby, Utah roundhouse and facilities (water tower footings, coaling tower footings, beanery foundation, etc.) in West Jordan, Utah, about 4000 W and 9000 S. The facility's been gone for years, but has been left pretty much alone. Check out the Google Maps image.


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=welby+utah&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.252269,63.808594&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=40.590232,-111.992397&spn=0.007544,0.022616&t=k&om=1

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=welby+ut&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=32.252269,63.808594&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=40.592594,-111.994205&spn=0.001886,0.005654&t=h&om=1

One other that might escape attention:

Clarkdale, AZ on the Arizona Central/Verde Canyon RR, used as a car shop and loco shop but minus turntable. (A former turntable bridge is in use as a bridge on the line, however.)

Nine standing roundhouses in New York State.

South Buffalo Railway - Lackawanna, NY

PRR - Ebenezer (east Buffalo) - not sure of use/condition.

BR&P - Lincoln Park (west Rochester) - used by local industry/warehouse.

LV - Manchester - abandoned, bad condition, likely to be torn down soon.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~scottychaos ... ester.html

LV - Auburn - abandoned.

PRR - Sodus Point - used for storage by a marina.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~scottychaos/PRRsodus.html

DL&W - East Binghamton yard. - abandoned, bad condition.

B&M - Troy

LIRR - Morris Park - only NY roundhouse still in use by a railroad.

(Erie - Elmira - only one stall remaining, not really a roundhouse anymore.)

Scot

Scot:

Don't forget the Utica Roundhouse, currently in use by a trucking company and apparently in very good shape (no turntable). It's visible from Route 12 North and sits just north of the mainline. It's ex NYC and built in the late 1800s. There uses to be four roundhouses in Utica...The DL&W turntable still remains but the roundhouse was demolished in the late 70s/early 80s for the Route 12 off-ramp.

Also, There is apparently an ex-O&W roundhouse that remains in Rome. It's just south of Martin St, west of the Amtrak Station and just west of the 49/69 overpass. It's three stall and readily visible from the road and on Google-Earth. It's in rough shape. I have many O&W books but have never seen a picture of it in operation. O&W pictures from Rome and Utica seem to be in short supply.

Bill

What about the NYC roundhouse in Buffalo, just off of Broadway at Bailey Ave (just west of Frontier Yard)? Is that still standing?

ATK, you beat me to it in Buffalo (NYCRR , Broadway).
Add or modify to Pat Fahey's New England list:
Connecticut
Columbia Jct. (Willimantic) REPLICA NYNH&H - CT Eastern RR Mus.
Putnam, CT - NYNH&H (modified)

Maine
Derby - Bangor & Aroostook, in operation Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Ry
Phillps - Phillips & Rangeley REPLICA, Sandy River & Rangely Lks RR Mus.
Rockland - Maine Central, in operation Maine Eastern

New Hampshire
North Conway, NH -B&M, in operation Conway Scenic

Vermont
St. Albans - Central Vt, in operation New England Central

Replicas listed above are in operation, Columbia awaits turntable
completion.

Williamson WV old N&W roundhouse still there and still in use by the NS. And the old B&O roundhouse at Martinsburg been there before the Civil War. Only ones i can think of.


Scott

Portsmouth, New Hampshire - B&M. Still standing, but just barely.

I am digitizing a block sheet #15 blueprint (One of 28) of the building drawn in 1942 when renovations were being planned, would anyone be interested if I posted it?

Mind you it is a block sheet and does not have full substructures, millwork and details outlined (I'm still trying to track those sheets off the plan from the Canadian archives) but it does give a good idea of the building.

Kev -

I say go ahead and post it. BTW, how many stalls does the Biggar roundhouse have?

Les

Hi all

A few more too add the New Enland list

Keene,New Hampshire,,,old shops,,,now small mall ex B&M

Burlington,Vt ex Rutland now in oparation Vertmont RR

New London,Ct ex Central Vertmont not sure if still standing

East New London (the official CV designation) burned a few years ago, after a period of vacancy and disuse.

It was a nice little wood roundhouse that had some preservation stuff going on inside during the early 70s-- one NJ-based group had Roberval & Saguenay 2-8-0 #17 in there from late 1973 until 1975, and Valley Railroad used the stall leased for #17 (before #17 arrived) to perform an engine overhaul on their 44-tonner #400 during early 1973. #400 had been leased to Electric-Boat and was on the way back to Essex. E-B paid for the engine work (two Cat D-17000s got new liners and pistons).

In San Francisco, the State Belt roundhouse was converted into swank Embarcadero office space. And what's left of the SP's Bayshore roundhouse in Brisbane is also still standing, albeit overgrown, vandalized, and ravaged by fire.

Santa Fe's Redondo Jct. and SP's San Jose roundhouses are two recent losses. The latter "survives" as pallets of bricks and other salvaged pieces at the county fairgrounds.

Ex-N&W Passenger Car Roundhouse located in Roanoke VA in the East end shops complex, currently leased and used by American Freight Car as an equipment repair shop.

Notice 1/3 roundhouse and table...


Here is a picture showing the turntable side of the roundhouse...


Here is another view showing the outer side of the roundhouse walls...


This roundhouse is still a timber frame structure inside under this modern roof, though an inspection inside reveals it is showing it's age and use with years of changes and damage from past fires!