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 Post subject: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:09 am 

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I would like to purchase a set of blueprints for an MLW built steam engine that CN used, class H-6, similar to the Ohio Central #1551. So far, I've contacted the Museum of Science and Technology in Ottawa, does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance!

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:00 am 

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Try the CRHA's Delson, Quebec museum "Exporail". CRHA has extensive MLW collections and may well have some of the H-6 drawings and photos.

Info on the Exporail archives below:

http://www.exporail.org/public/en/3_arc ... ements.asp

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:22 am 

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I'm sure Exporail will have them. They have the entire archives of MLW. However, depending on how much you want, it can get quite pricey. Not only will you have to pay for reproduction costs, but also research costs.

If it is cost prohibitive, try the Alberta Railway Museum. They have sister engine #1392 in operating condition. 1551's original number was 1354.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:30 pm 

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I'd like to thank all who helped, but Exporail did not have them, only class H-6-c drawings. (like 1531)
Would anyone else have any ideas who to try?

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:55 pm 

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One guy who had a number of CNR drawings for sale, was Bill Dykeman in PEI. Although he has since died, perhaps someone in his family is keeping the business going. His business was called the York Central Railway. He has a catalog that lists the various part drawings available. While he doesn't have any erecting cards for any of the H-6s, he has a few other drawings applicable to the H-6 class.

Here is the contact info I have for him

Company: York Central Railway.
Address: Box 10
YORK, PEI
CANADA C0A 1P0
Contact: Bill Dykeman
Phone: 902-368-5678
Email: billdykeman@pei.sympatico.ca
Fax: 902-628-2233

Is this for a live steam project? Might I suggest a nice GTR engine. Bill has lots of drawings from engines that orignated from the GTR such as pacifics, Moguls, Mikado's 6 and 8 wheeled switchers, inluding erecting cards and detail drawings.

If you get anywhere with this please let us know.

I personally have posted CNR Mechanical Department diagrams for most classes of CN Steam power on my website, and I've got diagrams for all of the H-6s.

http://www.trainweb.org/j.dimech/roster/diagrams.html

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:10 am 

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This is for a very specific application, but not a scale locomotive. Another locomotive class would not be feasible. Would the H6c drawings be applicable to an H6? Maybe Ohio Central would have the drawings and could be able to have them copied?

Not to be mysterious, but Trainspotter will let you know more when he is able to.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:38 am 

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Quote:

Richard Glueck wrote:

This is for a very specific application, but not a scale locomotive. Another locomotive class would not be feasible. Would the H6c drawings be applicable to an H6? Maybe Ohio Central would have the drawings and could be able to have them copied?

Not to be mysterious, but Trainspotter will let you know more when he is able to.



For which subclass are you looking for drawings? That might help in narrowing down the search. I understand not wishing to list a engine number prematurely. Class H-6 included a varied group of ten wheelers, but if you can let us know the subclass (-a, -b, etc) it'll help.

Another source worth checking is the Canada Science & Technology Museum in Ottawa. Their library and archive resources are excellent. Here's a link to the library services:

http://www.sciencetech.technomuses.ca/e ... ibrary.cfm

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:08 pm 

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Ottawa has been checked out.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:44 pm 

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I would be looking for the H-6-d class. The H-6-c had different cylinders, definately not the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:09 pm 

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Howdy; Have you had any luck? See my thread on CNR H6 4-6-0 on the interchange! viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32119
Thanks - David Notarius, London UK, Ex New Hope Pa


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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:00 pm 

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I'm also curious to learn if Delson has anything. I keep hearing that they have stuff, but I have never heard from anyone who has actually gotten anything from them.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:36 pm 

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The Milwaukee Public Library houses the Milwaukee Road Archive.
http://www.mpl.org/file/hum_milwroad_index.htm
Call humanities desk first and ask around before mailing an inquiry in (414) 286-3061. I think they have had staffing problems.


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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:52 pm 

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Buzz, The MLW locomotives in question are from the Montreal Locomotive Works, not the Milwaukee Road. But thanks for the tip, Dave


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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:16 pm 

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Before # 1551was renimbered in Oct 1956 her orginal Number was # 1354 I have found a side elevation of engine if this is any help, Pat
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 Post subject: Re: Looking to obtain blueprints, MLW built steam engine.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:33 pm 

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Much appreciated, Pat.

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