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 Post subject: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:13 am 
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History and Development of the 567 Series General Motors Locomotive Engine by E. W. Kettering

I finally found a copy of this very rare book through inter-library loan. No copy on the internet. Here it is for you preservation folks that work on GM locomotives. If you are into technical books that cover the challenges of new technology, this one is for you.

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We are lucky that Kettering had the wisdom to document this story.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:27 am 
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Love it. Hope you post the whole thing. The worst that can happen is a DMCA take-down request. (NOT legal advice though!)

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 Post subject: Re: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting- looking forward to reading the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:34 pm 
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filmteknik wrote:
Love it. Hope you post the whole thing. The worst that can happen is a DMCA take-down request. (NOT legal advice though!)

Steve

I have scanned it cover to cover. Having been out of print since 1951 - 62 years - I doubt that anyone involved with the publication is still alive and suspect that the ASME doesn't know that they ever published it.

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 Post subject: Re: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:36 pm 

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Steve, I also look forward to your posting the rest of the article.
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 Post subject: Re: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:42 pm 
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whodom wrote:
Very interesting. Thanks for posting- looking forward to reading the rest.
Here comes some more:

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 Post subject: Re: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:59 pm 
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Mike Tillger wrote:
Steve, I also look forward to your posting the rest of the article.
Thanks,
Mike Tillger

If the forum is ok with it - I'll post the entire booklet. The trial and error story is fascinating, and shows that engineering is much more than just theory. When theory meets reality, reality wins every time and classroom teaching can never replace real-world experience.

Here is more:

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I had no idea that pistons could cause so much headache.

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I had no idea that pistons could cause so much headache.

Don't say that anywhere near anyone who was with F-M in early in their locomotive-building adventures! You'd have to run and hide.

PS: This may be one of the best things to appear on this site in a while and that's saying a lot because this is a great site. Without getting anyone or the site into copyright trouble and so long as the site owners don't mind the storage and bandwidth costs I would encourage similar things of historic interest to be posted. There may be more efficient ways to do it (the right kind of efficient pdfs) but this is fine for now.

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 Post subject: Re: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:17 pm 

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As Mr. Spock of Star Trek would say, "Fascinating". Please continue the story when you can. We take it for granted that locomotives are sturdy and reliable, and need to know the long and sometimes painful journey toward designing a machine that will work for years, and even decades (yesterday I rode an excursion train powered by two EMD GP-35 units--still running after almost 50 years.)

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I'm very encouraged by the responses. I shall continue:

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Wow, GM spent a ton of money on test engines - many test engines - to perform basic research into piston, cylinder liner, connecting rod and cylinder head design.

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:26 pm 

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Steve:

This has been a very interesting read and I eagerly await future postings of the article as soon as you have time to scan more pages.


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 Post subject: Re: History of the EMD 567 Diesel Engine
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Topfuel wrote:
Steve:

This has been a very interesting read and I eagerly await future postings of the article as soon as you have time to scan more pages.

The whole book is scanned but I still have to post it to my Facebook page before I can link it here. I completely agree - it is a very interesting read but it takes a while because Facebook runs pretty slow - at least for my computer.

In addition I am running up on my deadline for completion of the Whitcomb Locomotive displays for our local Roberts Armory and the Flagg-Township Museum:

http://www.robertsarmory.com/whitcomb.htm

http://www.flaggtownshipmuseum.org/Whitcomb.shtml

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