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 Post subject: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:23 pm 

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I am looking for a photograph of the face of a steam gauge that bears the HK Porter name. I have seen one years ago on one of the 36" gauge Apache Powder fireless locomotives, so I know that they did exist.

My plan is to recreate a Porter named gauge for use on the J&L 58, and would rather not just start from scratch and draw up something that is not accurate.

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:58 pm 

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Rick,

http://www.bigdoer.com/6150/old-things/ ... the-world/

I think this might show what you are looking for. Its not a steam gauge, but it is H. K. Porter. You will need to scroll down quite a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:07 pm 

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That is great Bruce and gives me much to go on! Thanks. Looks like an Ashcroft.

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:17 pm 

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Hello Rick,

A few years ago I etched a steam gauge face for a Lombard Log hauler. Fortunately a friend had an original gauge face that he scanned on a flatbed scanner. Armed with the image and a O.D. I could match the size exactly. Since finding an exact match for the font was nearly impossible I traced each letter using AutoCAD then etched the new plate. It was a fun project and came out quite well.



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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:10 pm 

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Terry,

That looks great. What is the material that you used and how did you achieve that surface finish? I am going to attempt to make a new gauge face for an Ashcroft gauge that I have with the Porter markings. Wish me luck!

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:50 am 

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Hello Rick,

I used a piece of .040 brass. For the mask I used the iron on PNP blue after cleaning and heating the brass. I etched it using a solution of muriatic acid and hydrogen peroxide. Once the etching process was complete I bolted it to a wood face plate and turned to size ( 6 - 13/16"). After turning I spray painted it black then carefully wet sanded the paint away to leave the text. I think I got down to 1200 grit followed by a gentle buffing with very, very fine steel wool.

Here is a photo of the original:
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If your gauge had a silvered face that is fairly easy to do too. There is a silvering solution that works well. Here is a moto-meter face plate I etched and silvered for a gentleman in Argentina.

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These are fun projects and not all the hard. Developing the artwork is the most challenging aspect.

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Terry

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:15 am 

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Rick,

This might be what you are looking for.

http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/slide ... K%20Porter

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:36 am 

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No doubt this is a dumb idea, but I'm thinking that since HK Porter is still in business making industrial equipment, they might have gauges, valves, hose, etc available that would fit our engines...

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:08 pm 

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Commenting on Terry's gauge face, did you know about that trick where you
a)print the image onto paper with a laserprinter and the toner density set really high
b)use a hot iron to transfer the toner onto the metal, and then
c)put the metal in acid to etch it?

For gauge face, I guess you would use a negative image.

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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:15 am 

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Rick - please send me a note at rjmuldowney@comcast.net. I think that I might be able to help you out with a complete gauge with the H. K. Porter on the dial of the gauge.


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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:13 am 

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Good Morning Rick,

I don't know if you are still researching the gauge faces, but here is one I ran across. It is about 6.25" to the outside diameter of the brass ring and about 4.625" diameter for the actual gauge portion.

Hopefully the photo will appear properly.


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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:57 am 

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I found two gauges, took the faces off and had someone print the wording directly to the face. I now have a primary and a spare pressure gauge to use.


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 Post subject: Re: HK Porter Steam Gauge
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:53 am 

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I have to say, I love this particular project and how rapidly it is developing.

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