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 Post subject: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:54 pm 

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Today, I received an e-mail from someone else in the office requesting information so he could fill out some government paperwork or other. I thought the information gleaned was of some minor interest, so here it is.

“I have to compile some info for DEP's air quality study.
What is the boiler size of each of our steam locos?

I can’t think of a better way to describe the size of our boilers than to state what the heating surface of each one is, so here goes:
T1 = 1,134 sq. ft.
#89 = 1,084 sq. ft.
#90 = 2,370 sq. ft.
#475 = 2,824 sq. ft.
#7312 = 1,331 sq. ft.

What is the total number of miles traveled per locomotive in 2008, including the diesels?
#1 Plymouth = 20 (gasoline)
#10 LO&S = 361 (gasoline)
T1 = 1,826
#89 = 1,856
#90 = 5,654
#475 = 6,152
#7312 = 1,318
#8618 = 83 (diesel)
#9331 = 175 (diesel)

How many tons of coal were used in 2008 per steam locomotive?

This gets a little more difficult. We bought 877.63 tons of coal in 2008. Some of what was burned in 2008 was bought in 2007, and some of what bought in 2008 was burned in 2009, so lets call that a wash. We have no way to record how much coal is loaded on any given locomotive. Also, most of T1’s mileage is on other lines, using someone else’s coal. If we just count our mileage on T1, we get 723 miles. That, plus the other engine’s mileage adds up to 15,703 for the year. Divide 877.63 tons into 15,703 miles comes out to 17.89 miles to the ton.
From that, I get:
T1 = 40.41 tons
#89 = 103.37 tons
#90 = 316.04 tons
#475 = 343.88 tons
#7312 = 73.67 tons”

Our annual consumption of 877.63 tons is of interest. I use it whenever someone comments on our smoke. There is a PP&L power plant on the Susquehanna north of Harrisburg that I understand burns 1,000 tons every four hours.

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:18 pm 

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For an ever so brief moment as I perused the list,
"T-1? Huh?
"What T-1?
"THEY HAVE A T-1?
"THEY HAVE A T-1!!
"STRASBURG REALLY HAS A T-1!!!"
(Notices Great-Granddaughter's little blue piggy bank with other Brio on the floor)
"Oh..."

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:21 pm 
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I may be wrong, but if I am not mistaken T1= Thomas 1. Not an actual T1. :)

Very interesting numbers Kelly. Thank you for posting them. The comparison with some of the locomotives is very interesting

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:58 pm 

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I'm wondering if the government is really trying to figure out, based on the auto industry, what the mandated efficiency should be for new steam locomotives built after 2015.

I'm sure they will mandate at least 25 miles per ton.

Hmmmm.....a "cash for clunkers" program??


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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:57 am 

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Trainlawyer wrote:
For an ever so brief moment as I perused the list,
"T-1? Huh?
"What T-1?
"THEY HAVE A T-1?
"THEY HAVE A T-1!!
"STRASBURG REALLY HAS A T-1!!!"


Funny, but roughly the same kind of thoughts went through my mind as well. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:16 am 

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Mark Jordan wrote:
Hmmmm.....a "cash for clunkers" program??


Cash for clinkers? We might be onto something...

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:45 am 

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tyrok1 wrote:
Funny, but roughly the same kind of thoughts went through my mind as well. :)


Ya know, it would be nice if SRR would get 2100 and undo the hack-job oil conversion, but a T-hog is maybe slightly over sized for SRR operations. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:52 am 

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I had the PRR T-1 in mind, not the Reading......

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:01 pm 

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Wait, you mean the ones the PRR leased survived?

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:21 pm 

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Metman499 wrote:
Wait, you mean the ones the PRR leased survived?


Sure, the Air Force uses them in commuter service for the aliens at Area 51.

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:09 pm 

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Don't forget that the Strasburg Railroad is one of the few companies that could build a replica PRR T-1 from scratch. Not that I think they would ever have an economic reason to spend the money to make it happen.

Besides if they wanted to build an extinct PRR locomotive replica, my vote would be for a J-1 2-10-4.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:30 pm 

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My goodness, that would be something! Strasburg running a T1 or J1 almost, what, four feet from one end of the line to the other? If NS would open their tracks to steam once again, it would a dream

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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:57 pm 

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Sure, the Air Force uses them in commuter service for the aliens at Area 51.


Kelly,
I'd hope that you wouldn't get folks in trouble trying to find this one. Most everyone knows it's been in a caved-in tunnel from the Atomic bomb tests in 1946-47. No way to get onto the property anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:14 pm 

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Mark Jordan wrote:
Most everyone knows it's been in a caved-in tunnel from the Atomic bomb tests in 1946-47.


Tsk, tsk, why must people put perfectly good steam locomotives in tunnels. The Brooklyn and Jamaica tried leaving a steam locomotive in a tunnel about 100 years earlier, and look where that's gotten us today.

All kidding aside, it would be awfully cool if, somehow, either of those still existed.


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 Post subject: Re: Trivial Pursuit at the Strasburg Rail Road
PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:20 pm 

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Trainlawyer wrote:
For an ever so brief moment as I perused the list,
"T-1? Huh?
"What T-1?
"THEY HAVE A T-1?
"THEY HAVE A T-1!!
"STRASBURG REALLY HAS A T-1!!!"
(Notices Great-Granddaughter's little blue piggy bank with other Brio on the floor)
"Oh..."

GME


Just came across this old thread looking for something else--and you know, with the Strasburg having recently hosted N&W 611, and the new T1 under construction, maybe this isn't so far fetched after all. . .


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