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 Post subject: Re: B&LE 643 loaded onto flatcars for Ohio move
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:58 pm 

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Video of the flatcars in NS Conway Yard.

https://youtu.be/2Wn9D4kTUbk?si=OsORqF-Fe525Wbhc

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 Post subject: Re: B&LE 643 loaded onto flatcars for Ohio move
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:14 pm 

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whodom wrote:
Video of the flatcars in NS Conway Yard.

https://youtu.be/2Wn9D4kTUbk?si=OsORqF-Fe525Wbhc

I hope both cars depart there soon, in one piece, without going on the ground.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:51 am 

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Many more pics of the move here:

https://www.facebook.com/10005771375339 ... LxqnBkCAl/?

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 Post subject: Re: B&LE 643 loaded onto flatcars for Ohio move
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:28 pm 

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whodom wrote:
Many more pics of the move here:

Hopefully anyone working in a yard would realize not to run this setup over the hump even without this placard:


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 Post subject: Re: B&LE 643 loaded onto flatcars for Ohio move
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:59 pm 

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A friend of mine briefly worked for Conrail in the late '80's. Once, he was called for the night hump crew in some yard or other. As the new guy, one of his duties was to tear "Do no hump" placards off the sides of cars as they went over the hump...

Said there was a pretty good pile of them laying around.


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 Post subject: Re: B&LE 643 loaded onto flatcars for Ohio move
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:58 pm 

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Kelly Anderson wrote:
A friend of mine briefly worked for Conrail in the late '80's. Once, he was called for the night hump crew in some yard or other. As the new guy, one of his duties was to tear "Do no hump" placards off the sides of cars as they went over the hump...


Which is exactly why, the last two times I was involved with such movements, I had the signs made up essentially six feet by six feet, both pasted and taped to the cars, AND spray-painted "DO NOT HUMP" in four-foot letters on a fresh white background on the sides (atop graffiti that had to be eventually removed anyway).

AND shadowed the cars through every yard.

It worked in the two cases where the cars went over a hump--they pushed the cut over the hump to uncouple them on the proper track--in part because in both cases I was in the towers breathing down the yardmasters' necks.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:46 pm 

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Any word on what the bad order on the car is? Seems like that car would have gotten more than the typical cursory inspection when they reviewed the tie downs etc. Wonder what they missed, or did something develop during the move?

Conway's a bit of a black hole. I had a carload of rail get parked there once, on it's way to Seattle from St. Louis. Somebody put it on the wrong interchange track, Conrail grabbed it and it ended up in Conway, apparently thinking it was company materials.

Had a bit of a heated conversation. "We can't move it without a waybill. Send us a waybill and we'll ship it." "Oh hell no, then you'll bill me!" "Well, we can't move it without a waybill..." "You moved it all the way from St Louis to Pittsburgh without one, now put it back where you got it!" "Grumble, mumble.... OK..."


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 2:00 pm 

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I've mentioned the time a client of mine was shipping some passenger cars from Chicago to Montreal, and one ended up in Sparks, Nevada before he caught it on the car tracker..........


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:55 pm 

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Bobharbison wrote:
Any word on what the bad order on the car is? Seems like that car would have gotten more than the typical cursory inspection when they reviewed the tie downs etc. Wonder what they missed, or did something develop during the move?

If you look through Hugh Odom's FB posted pics, one of the wheelsets was replaced on the flat the boiler is on. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=81 ... 3580854426 Was not a new set in previous pics.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:44 pm 

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Friends of mine and I took turns messengering an RPO crew car over Conrail back in the late 70s. I did not ride that leg, but Conrail tried to hump that car at Allentown. The paperwork said Do Not Hump, it was stencilled on the car, and the two guys on the car were yelling at the hump crew. So, once halfway down the hump, they just tied down the handbrakes, and brought the humping operations to a stop. They had to be pulled back and set off. Sounds like things haven't gotten better since then-


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 Post subject: Re: B&LE 643 loaded onto flatcars for Ohio move
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:11 pm 

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TrainDetainer wrote:
Bobharbison wrote:
Any word on what the bad order on the car is? Seems like that car would have gotten more than the typical cursory inspection when they reviewed the tie downs etc. Wonder what they missed, or did something develop during the move?

If you look through Hugh Odom's FB posted pics, one of the wheelsets was replaced on the flat the boiler is on. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=81 ... 3580854426 Was not a new set in previous pics.

Looks like the lead axle on the lead truck on that car now, I wonder how it was caught.


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 Post subject: Re: B&LE 643 loaded onto flatcars for Ohio move
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:16 pm 

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PMC wrote:
Looks like the lead axle on the lead truck on that car now, I wonder how it was caught.


You don't suppose it could have been a defect detector ??

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:23 pm 

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QJdriver wrote:
PMC wrote:
Looks like the lead axle on the lead truck on that car now, I wonder how it was caught.


You don't suppose it could have been a defect detector ??

Could be obviously, but i wonder if someone was watching it transit a tight curve and saw possible damage occur, such as at a connection track or a yard lead, and decided it needed to be replaced while it was easy to get to.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:58 pm 

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:47 am 

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Wow! Fellas!
I hope 643 soon arrives home, so some of us can get some sleep!
Can anyone from the museum accompany the shipment? Follow along by road?


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