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 Post subject: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:42 pm 

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Saw this today on a Heavy Haul group. Said it was headed north out of Lancaster. Anybody have more information ?

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=797 ... 0276114216

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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:20 pm 

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Pretty sure that's Pacific Lumber 37; 2-8-2 T with the tank removed, had been undergoing restoration at Strasburg for Timber Heritage, and they sold it to Age of Steam.

See: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47684


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:51 pm 

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Yeah, that's it. Looks like it might beat BLE 643 to Sugarcreek.


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:29 pm 

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https://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocom ... isplay=316


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:20 am 

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Builders sheet says, “Weight in working order”. Does that mean weight with a full load of fuel and water ?

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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:59 am 

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rmne1887 wrote:
Builders sheet says, “Weight in working order”. Does that mean weight with a full load of fuel and water ?


Yes. The weigh-out of a locomotive at the factory was very important not just for the shipping rates, but for determining axle loading, etc. for ICC regulations. I want to say (though I can't tell you where I read this now) that pay was in part determined by both seniority and the size or axle loading? Can someone elaborate or tell me if I'm hallucinating?

They made sure an engine had a half glass of water, that the sand domes were full, even a bed of coal spread on the grates and sandbags in the crews' seats to simulated that weight as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:28 pm 

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Boilermaker wrote:
I want to say (though I can't tell you where I read this now) that pay was in part determined by both seniority and the size or axle loading? Can someone elaborate or tell me if I'm hallucinating?
Some roads at some times did pay based on Weight on Drivers. The requirement to have firemen might also calculated that way.
A modern example, the Budd SPV-2000 powered passenger cars were heavy enough as built with all 8 wheels powered, to require a fireman with even a 1 car train. But with drive shafts disconnected and Warranty Voided, only half the weight was on drivers, and only an Engineer was needed.


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:52 am 

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For locomotive moves, you really want to be aware of that - because in most cases the historic clearance diagrams show axle loadings in full working order. That's necessary for operation analysis, but if you're dead-in-tow or doing a flatcar loading that's another thing entirely.

It's also an important issue if you're doing bridge ratings either of the flatcar move or the dead-in-tow move, I've seen it make the difference of whether it was even possible or not. It certainly changes the calculated center of gravity as well for a flatcar move.

Until you've seen a Reading 2100 stuffed on top of a QTTX flatcar (not depressed center), and run cross-country, you wouldn't think this was even possible....


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:04 pm 

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What Randy is talking about!


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:39 am 

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The Locomotive on the Move is no longer moving! Last night (Thursday, 01/18/2024) former Pacific Lumber Company 2-8-2T #37 was delivered to its destination at the Age of Steam Roundhouse Museum in Sugarcreek, Ohio. This is the 24th old-timer to be acquired by Age of Steam.

The next steamer scheduled to be delivered to AoSRM should be ex-B&LE 2-10-4 #643. More, later. Be Safe.

John B. Corns


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:32 pm 

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How much room is left in the roundhouse?

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John


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:44 am 

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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:07 pm 

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Good to know, thanks Mr. Anderson!

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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:55 pm 

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Kelly Anderson wrote:
I can't speak to that, but there is plenty of space in the circle for more stalls...

I asked our tour guide about that when I was there a year and a half ago... his reply was they figure $2 million per stall should do it...

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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive on the move
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:40 pm 

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John B. Corns wrote:
The Locomotive on the Move is no longer moving! Last night (Thursday, 01/18/2024) former Pacific Lumber Company 2-8-2T #37 was delivered to its destination at the Age of Steam Roundhouse Museum in Sugarcreek, Ohio. This is the 24th old-timer to be acquired by Age of Steam.

The next steamer scheduled to be delivered to AoSRM should be ex-B&LE 2-10-4 #643. More, later. Be Safe.

John B. Corns


John - Photo on the Ahead of the Torch (AOTT) site shows the boiler and cab of the 2-10-4 loaded on KRL 152 (a drop center flat car) and on the move! Great news!

Les


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