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 Post subject: Guinness
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:30 pm 

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The St. James's Gate Brewery belonging to Guinness had what was apparently the longest private factory railway system in Ireland. In total there were 10 miles of track of which 8 miles were narrow gauge. There were some interesting innovations included within the system - a spiral in narrow gauge allowing trains to pass under St. James's Street, an ingenious conversion wagon which allowed narrow gauge locomotive to work on the broad gauge sidings, a unique design of narrow gauge locomotive specifically suited to the needs of the site.

This is another post prompted by reading one of the 1951 editions of The Railway Magazine!

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/04/26/th ... ays-dublin


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 Post subject: Re: Guinness
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:29 pm 

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Thank you for posting this article.

To bring this discussion into the preservation realm, it should be noted that the Guinness broad gauge 0-4-0T No. 3 shown in the fifth photo is in the collection of the Railway Preservation Society of Ireland (RPSI) at their museum in Whitehead, Co. Antrim in Northern Ireland. She was the society's first locomotive, acquired in 1965, and is beloved by many.

https://www.steamtrainsireland.com/rpsi-collection/2/no3bg-guinness

RPSI has produced a great video all about No. 3, hosted by curator Edward Friel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psC2fGjw1go

-Philip Marshall


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 Post subject: Re: Guinness
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:36 am 

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I appreciate the response. There are a number of Guinness locomotives in preservation. ...

For example, there are two of the Guinness Brewery locos at the Ulster Transport Museum near Belfast. Pictures below.


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 Post subject: Re: Guinness
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:35 am 

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This loco is at Amberley in the UK (c) Les Chatfield


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:38 am 

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This locomotive is now preserved in the Narrow Gauge Museum at Tywyn station on the Tallyllyn railway in Wales (c) Greywall Productions.


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 Post subject: Re: Guinness
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:40 am 

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Not only is (some track remains in place in Dublin) the Guinness railway narrow gauge, it is an extremely narrow gauge at 22 inches. One of the engines, no. 15, began steam operations at the Irish preservation project known as the Stradbally Woodland Railway. They later configured the railway to 3 foot gauge, returned two of the coaches to Guinness, and have the 15 on display.
https://stradballyrailway.webs.com/historyoftherailway.htm

For active discussion of other smaller narrow gauges, check out:
https://groups.io/g/18inch


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 Post subject: Re: Guinness
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:41 am 

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A short note about a couple of publications which focus on the Guinness Brewery Railways. .....

http://rogerfarnworth.com/2020/07/22/th ... blin-again

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This very short article results from some recent reading about the railways on the Guinness Brewery site in Dublin.

An article in 'Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling Review' Issue 60 Volume 8, October 2004, p134-142; and

Paul Webb, 'Shifting the Stout', The Moseley Trust, Apedale, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire.


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 Post subject: Re: Guinness
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:47 pm 

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A 1985 book to look into:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brewery-Railwa ... 0715386050


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