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 Post subject: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 1:40 am 

Greetings,

With all the mention of barely saved and just missed locomotives, I am wondering what jewels are still languishing in junkyards. I speaking in regards to rolling stock, locomotives, etc. We already know about the Roanoke locomotives, but what else out there is looking for a good and caring owner?

God Bless,
Gerald Kopiasz
Heartland Railroad Historical Society

hrrhs@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 12:19 pm 

Hello-

I posted this to the Rumor Web site a while back, but there are a couple of Grand Trunk Western Automobile Cars sitting just off the abandoned Detroit & Mackinac ROW in Onaway, Michigan. Rumorweb hasn't been updated since November, but it has some really interesting listing of what is still lanquishing out there. The link is below:

http://nt1.foothill.net/rumorweb/

TJG

> Greetings,

> With all the mention of barely saved and
> just missed locomotives, I am wondering what
> jewels are still languishing in junkyards. I
> speaking in regards to rolling stock,
> locomotives, etc. We already know about the
> Roanoke locomotives, but what else out there
> is looking for a good and caring owner?

> God Bless,
> Gerald Kopiasz
> Heartland Railroad Historical Society


Port Huron Museum
tjgaffney@phmuseum.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 3:48 pm 

This section of comments reminds me of what, IMHO, is one of the best quotes to come out of the rail preservation community in some time. i like it so much that I put in my e-mail tag-line:

"Almost without exception the Locomotive is given the primary focus in railway museums. The rolling stock (freight and passenger) is too often considered secondary, when in fact it was the rolling stock that moved the people and the goods that, in turn, earned the revenue to pay the costs, including the cost of the locomotive. Locomotives do not exist on their own, and we really have to balance our preservation of railway history, or future generations may think that trains only consisted of locomotives and cabooses."
Garry Anderson, Executive Director, Canadian Museum of Rail Travel

TJG

Port Huron Museum
tjgaffney@phmuseum.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: RumorWeb Update
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2002 7:34 pm 

As it looks I seem to have forgotten to update the last updated date on the homepage. I added a few things, and just added a new item today.

Anyone who has any information about anything on the site is more than welcome to drop me a line.

-=Andrew=-

RumorWeb
abrandon@foothill.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2002 11:03 pm 

A jewel to someone out there...has been sitting in a Newbury, Mass., junkyard rusting away since
1986.

A 1920's(?) era Porter 0-6-0T, is sitting on 2 30' lengths of rail, surrounded by an assortment of her own parts, including her rods, cab, and saddletank. This is Simons Wrecking #2, once part
of the Steamtown, USA (VT) collection. She was purchased by a collector, and sold only a month later to the salvage yard owner who intended to display her at another business venture he was involved in. When that didn't pan out, the loco was trucked in pieces to her current location. The boiler & drivers were set on rails, and most of the other parts laid nearby on the ground.
We've been in recent contact with the owner to try and rescue this 41 ton jewel.



sjhussar@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 4:28 pm 

How about the 1895 ex L&PS, Nee Pere marquette wooden caboose that is slowly falling apart in the back 40 at the Halton County Radial Railroad museum. Shouldn't the 1225 group rescue her?

HCRY collection
b.hume@rogers.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2002 1:03 pm 

> How about the 1895 ex L&PS, Nee Pere
> marquette wooden caboose that is slowly
> falling apart in the back 40 at the Halton
> County Radial Railroad museum. Shouldn't the
> 1225 group rescue her?

I agree, but a better place would be THE LP&S toruist opeeration, in my opinion. There is so little Pere Marquette heritage left in Ontario as it is; I would hate to see a piece removed if it doesn't have to.

TJG


Port Huron Museum
tjgaffney@phmuseum.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 3:27 am 

Is that the same one that is mentioned on the lost engines web site? I was told by someone who looked at it about a little over a year ago that the bottom side of the saddle tank was rotting off from setting on the damp ground. Would that have an affect on getting back to running??

Chris

> Greetings,

> With all the mention of barely saved and
> just missed locomotives, I am wondering what
> jewels are still languishing in junkyards. I
> speaking in regards to rolling stock,
> locomotives, etc. We already know about the
> Roanoke locomotives, but what else out there
> is looking for a good and caring owner?

> God Bless,
> Gerald Kopiasz
> Heartland Railroad Historical Society


chlanier@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 9:35 am 

yes,
the saddletank is in poor shape, it is partially rotted away on both sides where it is in contact with the ground.

At this point, just getting her out of there, and to someplace more "preservation-friendly" would be
a step in the right direction.

Heck, building a couple of side tanks and turning her into a "Thomas" would even be ok at this point!


sjhussar@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 4:24 pm 

What does he want for it?? Having to move it must be expensive, makes you wonder how they can move something that must weigh 80,000 pounds down the street? Do you know what year it was and where it came from when in service?

Chris

> yes,
> the saddletank is in poor shape, it is
> partially rotted away on both sides where it
> is in contact with the ground.

> At this point, just getting her out of
> there, and to someplace more
> "preservation-friendly" would be
> a step in the right direction.

> Heck, building a couple of side tanks and
> turning her into a "Thomas" would
> even be ok at this point!


chlanier@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Junkyard Jewels?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 5:29 pm 

The construction number seems to be unknown,
as is the engine's history prior to her
Simons Wrecking days.

In regard to moving 41 tons down the road,
it appears that a torch was used in several places to "cut" the locomotive apart.

As for when she was built, I've read that because of the cylinder (18 X 24")and driver sizes(46"),
she may have been built in the early 20's.



sjhussar@aol.com


  
 
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