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 Post subject: Re: Best Rumors/Legends
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:27 pm 

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Guys, Don't forget that "Old Elkhorn Tunnel" outside Bluefield WV (replaced in 1950) is filled with late model low mileage N&W steam locos. It has to be a fact, I've been hearing about them since the 1970's..........

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 Post subject: Re: Oh, where to begin?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:38 pm 

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The one that seemed to broil Sandy's britches the most was the Pennsy B8 switcher, in a quarry, with the site even named. The fellow who actually started this rumor wrote to me directly, telling me he had stood on the cab roof, staring down at a sloped back tender. Enough people put stock in the story that we even drove a certified scuba diver out of his gourd, insisting he make time to dive on the site. Naturally, there was no B8 locomotive. The best and funniest twist was the following April Fool's day, when Sandy posted a notice revealing the discovery of an SP Krauss-Maffei Diesel in that same Pennsylvania quarry, since everyone knows it's really a Baldwin A-B-A set of "Sharks".

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 Post subject: Re: About "cars in barns"...........
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:46 pm 

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Both stories are absolutely true, bona fide, and the locomotives are stored and in repair or have been in service. I've seen and touched them. The Swedish locomotive was purchased along with a fleet of passenger cars by a millionaire who ran them on the Belfast and Moosehead Lake. The Loco is stored indoors today, while the tender is outdoors under a shroud. The B&ML has fallen on exceptionally hard times, along with tons and tons of lovely old Maine and Massachusetts rolling stock.

The narrow gauge locomotive is at the WW&F.

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 Post subject: Re: Best Rumors/Legends
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:58 pm 

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There is the collapsed tunnel with the steam loco that was investigated this past year. Not N&W, but wasn't it ex-Southern or B&O? Tunnel is full of water and unsafe to boot.

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 Post subject: Re: Best Rumors/Legends
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:22 pm 

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Richard Glueck wrote:
There is the collapsed tunnel with the steam loco that was investigated this past year. Tunnel is full of water and unsafe to boot.
Try searching the Richmond, Va. "Times Dispatch" for Church Hill Tunnel. There are other sites, UER.ca should have some discussion and links.


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 Post subject: Re: Oh, where to begin?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:36 pm 

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Richard Glueck wrote:
The one that seemed to broil Sandy's britches the most was the Pennsy B8 switcher, in a quarry, with the site even named.


Richard,

You must admit, though, that it is rather fun around here when Sandy's britches get boiled..............................:)

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 Post subject: Re: Oh, where to begin?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:48 pm 

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don't forget the tunnel in St Louis at the MOT
I heard rumors for years livin' while in the ozarks about
all kinds of stuff hidden there
must be 25 miles long in there

its interesting how one mans rumor is another mans fact

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 Post subject: Re: Oh, where to begin?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:52 pm 

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You must admit, though, that it is rather fun around here when Sandy's britches get boiled..............................:)


Hey, sometimes that's the only way to get the locomotive/bicycle grease out of them. <:-)

(Meanwhile, speaking of "broiling", here I was trying to track down some restaurants in Virginia that still retained one of the old original Biff-Burger "Roto-Broilers" for nostalgia's sake......... If Mike Schafer and Jim Boyd can have Steak 'n' Shake, I can have Biff-Burger..........)


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 Post subject: Re: Best Rumors/Legends
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:55 pm 

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Isn't there s'posed to be a Mason Bogie 2-8-6 trapped in the Alpine Tunnel of the old South Park line in Colorado? Since this rumor is over a century old, it's gotta be the longest lived. ;<)


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 Post subject: Professor Churellas Book- Guess how much on Amazon
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:08 pm 

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As of the other night $585. Yes, Five Hundred Eighty Five US Dollars.

Somebody at Princeton Uniersity Press should be figuring out this book needs a secod edition.

I bought the E-book a few years ago, or I should say rented it. Back then, it was $9.95 and the hardcover was $200. Now there is no e-book available and when I try to activate the pdf, it tells me I need to be connected to the internet, even though I sure am connected.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Rumors/Legends
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:17 pm 

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The interurban and streetcar equivalent of cars in a barn is a carbody built into a house and hidden by later construction. A friend of mine did live in a house that had a streetcar body deep inside it. Not a trace of that body showed outside the house.

Key System (San Francisco Bay Area electric railway operator) kept very good records about the scrapping of its 500 series wooden cars in the 1930's. However one car number did not make it onto the list of scrapped cars. This probably was a clerical error. That body was rumored to have been used for a duck hunting club building. Fans have been looking for it for years without success.

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 Post subject: Re: Oh, where to begin?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:41 pm 

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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
(Meanwhile, speaking of "broiling", here I was trying to track down some restaurants in Virginia that still retained one of the old original Biff-Burger "Roto-Broilers" for nostalgia's sake......... If Mike Schafer and Jim Boyd can have Steak 'n' Shake, I can have Biff-Burger..........)


Most of the old "Biff Burger"s in western Virginia became "Kenney Burger"'s after the owner split with the franchise. I grew up eating those things. According to the "Biff Burger" historical website (aren't internet search engines wonderful..........sorry, couldn't resist............) there is one still in operation about twenty miles from here. I'll try to check it out soon and let you know.

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 Post subject: Re: Best Rumors/Legends
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:49 pm 

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The Alpine Tunnel loco was removed shortly after, as the line was successfully reopened. Histories of the Denver, South Park & Pacific and articles in Railroad Magazine and elsewhere give more details.
More accessible to the masses, and yet entirely disproven, are the rumors about the abandoned Long Island Railroad's abandoned Atlantic Ave. tunnel under Brooklyn, N.Y., full of giant rats, man-eating Nazi saboteurs, Judge Crater, all of Murder, Inc.'s victims, and the engine of the last train, hurriedly left behind as the tunnel was being sealed, then buried in a later cave-in!
And how about the story that 3 of the last 8 East Broad Top RR & Coal Company steam locos are still sitting in the same spots in 2 different engine houses, at least 51 years after they last turned a wheel. Supposedly, 1 of the others was sold, 4 were restored at various times, and you can still see the others through the dusty windows.


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 Post subject: Re: Professor Churellas Book- Guess how much on Amazon
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:22 pm 

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I very literally fell on the floor. You have GOT to be kidding me.

Mine has a price sticker in it still from the secondary-market re-seller I bought it from a couple years ago, not really realizing what I had.

$12.75. Plus tax.

I wonder if there's still one on the shelf over there.............. If so, I presume you want one? The website doesn't mention one, but they lose stuff on those shelves routinely.

(By the way, I have a witness to the above purchase, so the above isn't its own legend.......)


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 Post subject: Re: Best Rumors/Legends
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:24 pm 

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Sunken locomotive #508 website. Do not open unless you have a little time to read. Once hooked you find yourself losing track of time!


http://www.locomotive508.nb.ca/journal1.htm

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