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 Post subject: Sumpter Valley 50 & 250
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:12 am 

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Also colorized, at Baker, Oregon, undated for No. 50, 1947 for the 250.

http://www.narrowgaugetalk.com/sumpter- ... -t333.html

No 50 went to Peru and operated into the 1970s, but was later scrapped. No 250 and 251 went to Guatemala and operated into the 1960s, later being scrapped also, but the tenders from 250 and 251 have been returned to the revived Sumpter Valley, with one operating behind 2-8-2 19. Nos. 250 and 251 were built as side-tank engines for the Uintah Railway in Colorado, receiving the tenders from SV 2-8-2s 19 and 20, which had been sold to the White Pass & Yukon, possibly with the tender from No. 50 and another from one of the lighter SV 2-8-2s, which had also gone to Peru. The tender from No. 50 is believed to be the one now behind WP&Y 190 at the Tweetsie RR in NC. Confusing?


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 Post subject: Re: Sumpter Valley 50 & 250
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:30 am 

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Here is a shot of 251 being shopped in Guatemala in 1959


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 Post subject: Re: Sumpter Valley 50 & 250
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:48 pm 

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Thanks for posting this beautiful picture of FIdeCA #251. The location is Mazatenango, and I'd have to say that dropping the #2 drivers was done because an emergency repair was needed, rather than for any scheduled maintainance. It would have been done the hard way because the drop table in Mazatenango was in stall #1 of the roundhouse, which did not directly face any of the turntable leads, and these engines were way too long for any of the turntables which the FIdeCA had. There were run through shops in Guatemala City and Zacapa equiped with drop tables, and the "doble movimientos" were usually shopped in Guate for this reason, although they were based in Escuintla for most of their service lives.

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 Post subject: Re: Sumpter Valley 50 & 250
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:48 pm 

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Peter, how did you "colorize" that photo? They seem to come alive when colorized!

Steve Thomsen who lives around the Sumpter Valley did a few of the SV locos a few years ago and they were spectacular! So much so (spectacular) that I can not forget about them.

I wonder if a boring photo could be made a dynamic photo just by colorizing it? Its sure look like its a possibility.

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 Post subject: Re: Sumpter Valley 50 & 250
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:17 pm 

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Peter, how did you "colorize" that photo? They seem to come alive when colorized!


This shot was taken by my father as a color Kodachrome 35mm slide, so it didn't need colorizing. I am not good at color correcting old scanned slides, but at least this gets the idea accross.

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 Post subject: Re: Sumpter Valley 50 & 250
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:10 pm 

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Hi All,

I'm the Steve Thompson who colorized the SVRy images. Although I did live in Sumpter for a while, right along the rebuilt SVRy ROW, I now have moved out to the Southern Oregon coast. It's a wonderful place to live, but the closest active railroad is 100 miles away. I sure miss the steam train chugging past our home, 100 feet away!

I've actually done quite a large number of colorizations, mostly of my father's NP photos, but one of my favorites so far is one by James Turner in 1937 at Kanasket WA. This is an NP 2-8-8-2, class Z-3. The image was cut off just above the telephone pole in the original image, so I also added more sky and the top of the smoke column.

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I always mark the images "colorized" so there can be no doubt! I try to get them historically accurate, but make no claim as to accuracy.

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 Post subject: Re: Sumpter Valley 50 & 250
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:45 pm 

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This shot was taken by my father as a color Kodachrome 35mm slide, so it didn't need colorizing.


PJS- I had no idea Kodachrome was that spectacular. I ws too young to appreciate it I suppose.

Steve - great work! I'd sure like to see more.

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