With regards to the needless loss of the Rio Linda station foundation, is it really any suprise to Rush Limbaugh listeners that Rio Linda would have done such a thing? I think this news fits well with their reputation. :-)

todengine@woh.rr.com

Rick,

You steal my steam once again. I'm a diehard listener of Rush. When I read this story, I couldn't resist but harken back to his Rio Linda comments. Is he a prophecy? In this case he most certainly is.

God Bless Rick,
Gerald Kopiasz

> With regards to the needless loss of the Rio
> Linda station foundation, is it really any
> suprise to Rush Limbaugh listeners that Rio
> Linda would have done such a thing? I think
> this news fits well with their reputation.
> :-)


Heartland Railroad Historical Society
hrrhs@aol.com

In the interest of peace, let us please leave politics out of this when possible. Too easy to start a flame war. Remember, your editor is a loyal union brother who almost never votes Republican. He has strong views also, but tries to remain neutral.

Rick,

> You steal my steam once again. I'm a diehard
> listener of Rush. When I read this story, I
> couldn't resist but harken back to his Rio
> Linda comments. Is he a prophecy? In this
> case he most certainly is.

> God Bless Rick,
> Gerald Kopiasz


bobyar2001@yahoo.com

All right Bob, I can agree with that. Even though I'm a staunch Republican, I believe unions have their place. They have helped my grandfather and dad since long ago they worked for packing houses. Not to mention the fact that drilling for oil in ANWAR will create more union jobs even though I won't type say that.

God Bless,
Gerald Kopiasz

> In the interest of peace, let us please
> leave politics out of this when possible.
> Too easy to start a flame war. Remember,
> your editor is a loyal union brother who
> almost never votes Republican. He has strong
> views also, but tries to remain neutral.

> Rick,


Heartland Railroad Historical Society
hrrhs@aol.com

This die hard liberal thinks we need more self-moderated posts like this one.


hkading@rypn.org

Hey, with all due respect to the editor, I don't think mentioning Rush Limbaugh (especially in the context of the Rio Linde thing-which is well, more of a comic thing and hilarious)-is political. I've seen and responded to postings that were for more explicitly political.

Moreover I'd like to hear from the staunchly pro-democrats. I almost never vote democrat because I see them as disrespectful of the individual. Having said that-I don't see politics as a vehicle for earthly salvation-rather as necessary evil to keep us from anarchy.

I want to hear from other people who think differently than me. I've learned a lot about the world-(in some ways more than my MBA professors) from guys who would cringe if they knew my voting record.

Granted, there's a certain restraint we should use here, but being railroad preservation enthusiasts means learning about not only equipment but what shaped the history and the culture of the industry (and maybe its demise)which can't be separated from the influence of a strong collective bargaining ethic.

In that vein I don't get the continued adherence to the concept of adverserial relations-from either side. Railroads have been almost idiotic in labor relations (from the resistance to stokers to the recent NS toilet "baggie" idea) but the unions have been merrily killing themselves with the death of a thousand cuts.

As their "power" grew, the unions readied to fight the railroad. So the railroads quietly fought back. First they got diesels, then 2 man crews, FREDS relacing cabooses, and now we're dealing with remote control growing in switch operations.

On the other hand, the trucking industry, largely manned by owner-operators (and yes I realize thats not possible in railroading) has grown, because of the convergence of labor/management goals. There's a lot of truckers out there who should be hoggin' not haulin'.

So I have a question. Railroad employment has generally dropped. What gains exist are in non-union shortlines. This in itself would make me question if my political contributions and loyalties were misplaced.

Why does this adversial nature persist? Why are railroads and their employees so enamored of self destruction? In spite of the Staggers act,railroads are still not as profitable as they need to be.

In the auto industry, there's a lot more cooperation between labor and management and that's most evident in their ability to drive favorable legislation through. Perhaps if there was less adversity, the idiots on both sides in Washington would see that in the post 9-11 era, we might need a national rail system for defense purposes.

Just for the record, my comment wasn't political, it was merely an observation that I made about Rio Linda.

Anyways listening to Rush is beneficial. Thats where I first heard about the runaway CSX train in Ohio last year, as it was rolling down the Toledo branch and two of my coworkers were giving chase. :-)



todengine@woh.rr.com

Recently, the Teamsters local that hauls new cars by truck threatened to strike unless the auto companies shipped FEWER cars by rail. I asked a local UTU member why they didn't protest. His answer was that they didn't want to mess with the teamsters and it wasn't that much traffic anyway!

mhd@relnet.net

So far you are displaying a partial list of the stuff I will not discuss when I am involved in my little world of rail preservation. To each his own!


lamontdc@adelphia.net

Hume,

In all due respect, self-moderation would imply self reliance. We all know that self reliance is a central theme of modern day conservativism. :)

God Bless, (which liberals are trying to get out of society)
Gerald Kopiasz

> This die hard liberal thinks we need more
> self-moderated posts like this one.


hrrhs@aol.com

> With regards to the needless loss of the Rio
> Linda station foundation, is it really any
> suprise to Rush Limbaugh listeners that Rio
> Linda would have done such a thing? I think
> this news fits well with their reputation.
> :-)
I' don't listen to Rush often, so I don't have a clue what you're talking about. Could you briefly explain what happened, and why it is significant to railroad preservation?

Martyhuck@aol.com

Here is how Rush describes it: >

I think several years ago Rush was making a joke about a reverend who was hearing satanic messages in phonograph records played backwards. A man from Rio Linda called in and said that he played the record backwards on his player and didn't hear anything. Rush then said (jokingly)that only players made in this one particular year and by a particular company had this special device added that can pick out the secret messages. The caller did not get the joke, and believed Rush. So after that incident Rio Linda is kind of an inside joke about people who aren't the brightest folks, and after the 2000 election, Palm Beach is now afforded the same status as Rio Linda.

No railroad content in this post, just answering the question.

todengine@woh.rr.com

One final comment on this off the subject thread.

I don't normally listen to Rush, except for laughs. Also, I guess unlike most conservatives I work during the day. (Sorry, couldn't pass that one by.:-)

Regardless, listening to a rebroadcast yesterday, I noted his phone number is 282-2882. Coincidence?

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