It is currently Fri Aug 21, 2026 11:51 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:50 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:05 pm
Posts: 1130
Location: MA
saw this on Ozark Mountain
http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/cv_coach.htm
Where is this car located, does anyone know?


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:26 pm 

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:51 pm
Posts: 12151
Location: Somewhere east of Prescott, AZ along the old Santa Fe "Prescott & Eastern"
I suspect--but don't guarantee--that this car is on the property of the Green Mt. RR in North Walpole, N.H., across the river from Bellows Falls, Vt.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:27 pm 

Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:02 pm
Posts: 1881
Location: Back in NE Ohio
One heck of a long-term project, but if ever a car belonged with the museum at WRJ, this would be one. RMNE would be a good alternative home. Needs a total frame-off restoration at an enclosed shop. Sending it to WRJ via Strasburg wouldn't be a bad idea. They know what to do with wooden basket cases. Now all they would need is a financial angel.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:54 pm 

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:06 pm
Posts: 2567
Location: Thomaston & White Plains
This car is at Seaview Transportation in Quonset Point, RI. I think the car was once (currently?) owned by "Steam Associates", which had some other vintage rolling stock stored at the RI location.

Paul, thanks for the suggestion about RMNE being a good home, but frankly, we have other items already on hand that need attention and cover. Unless this arrived at Thomaston with a very generous and benevolent benefactor, let's say...

Howard P.

_________________
"I'm a railroad man, not a prophet."


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:18 pm 

Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:12 am
Posts: 825
Location: cheyenne
Frame off restoration...you must be joking. It looks like it would be a pretty straight forward restoration, i wish we had something as good and complete as that to work with.

Mike Pannell
Cheyenne


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:42 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:05 pm
Posts: 1130
Location: MA
car57 wrote:
Frame off restoration...you must be joking. It looks like it would be a pretty straight forward restoration, i wish we had something as good and complete as that to work with.

Mike Pannell
Cheyenne


Then why don't you get it, it is practicality free.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:02 pm 

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:37 pm
Posts: 451
Location: Missoula MT
RCD wrote:

Then why don't you get it, it is practicality free.


Wyoming to Rhode Island. Even if the car was free, it isn't worth the move, especially when the guy has two (or is it three?) carbodies to work on already.

That said, the car doesn't look in horrid condition, but the East wreaks havoc on equipment far different than the West. The furthest practical interest in the car might be as far as Ohio or Indiana, but I recall there was an NKP wood car that went begging (methinks it was scrapped) because nobody wants to work on wood cars. There is a handful (small handful) of groups that have been working with wood equipment-- but then it just has to fit their collections policy. I would suggest Strasburg, but I'll bet their backlot is full.

Would be an interesting project for somebody--up there with building a 100 ft schooner in your basement. I would hope this car doesn't go to scrap, however.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:16 pm 

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:10 am
Posts: 2499
I have been following the fate of this car for years. It is a gem, but the price (I think) has been a sticking point. Now that it is down to $250.00, maybe a museum will come forward. Unfortunately, in that case it would likely have to leave New England, unless some king of Maine or prince of New England steps forward.

Right now, there is a plethora of wood passenger and head-end cars in New England that are available or need saving. This is one of at least 6 I am aware of.

Rob

_________________
Rob


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:23 am 

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:54 am
Posts: 1078
Location: Califoothills / Midwest Prairies / PNW
Since you know the car, how about a breakdown of the plusses and minuses for it, versus the other 5 cars.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:18 pm 

Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:12 am
Posts: 825
Location: cheyenne
Im glad RCD thinks $10,000 is practically free, perhaps he would like to donate his practically free $10,000 to us instead of making silly comments from his armchair !

Mike Pannell (painting a wooden car in Wyoming by the heat of a stove in an open field!)


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:23 pm 

Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:28 pm
Posts: 36
Location: Somers, Connecticut
If you read below the price, you would notice that it said that the car would be donated to any non-profit that wishes to preserve it. The non-profit would be responsible for shipping and a $250 transaction fee.

_________________
Timothy Lesniak
Corporate Secretary
CT Trolley Museum
Warehouse Point, CT


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:08 pm 

Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:12 am
Posts: 825
Location: cheyenne
there you go then $10,000 shipping plus $250.

mike


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:33 am 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:05 pm
Posts: 1130
Location: MA
A good deal of railroad museums have flatbed trucks they could use, also what about Old Colony & Fall River Railroad Museum... This is the reason I have

"The goal of this organization is to preserve railroad
artifacts, equipment, and rolling stock
especially any relating to the
EMD F40PH model locomotives, for historical and educational purposes,
and to educate the public about these artifacts and historical
information through collection, restoration, display, demonstration
and interpretation."

So as to not exclude any historic equipment, if this organization grows into an entity that can handle it.

-Rowan


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:58 am 

Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:12 am
Posts: 825
Location: cheyenne
This is not a flatbed truck job, it would be an oversize load by anyones standards even without trucks, so permits and specialized trucking would be considerably expensive


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Anyone know anything about this?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:20 am 

Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:51 pm
Posts: 97
Location: Connecticut
Speaking from experience of trying to get a large car shipped from Cleveland to Connecticut as we speak. This job would probably exceed $13,000.00. We are using Silk Road to Move our CA&E car. We save some money because we were able to combine the jacking crew with other cars so they could do several in one day. In this case I suspect most groups would use the jacking crew at both ends on a single move. So, you are talking 3 rigs, one to move the body, one to move the trucks, and the one for the jacking crews equipment. The dollars add up even before you get on the road.

_________________
Christopher Chestnut
Free Agent


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: