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 Post subject: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:53 pm 

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Sorry I don't have a translation but lots of steam
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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:14 pm 

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The blue steamer looks like a P-36 4-8-4.


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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:24 pm 
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Running some of the visible engine numbers shows this to be the Shushary Railway Museum, Varshavsky terminal, St. Petersburg, Russia. The blue P-36 would then be either P36-0027 (which is/was operational), or P36-0251 (last steam locomotive built by Kolomna.)

There are 40 steam locomotives along recorded at this location.

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:30 pm 

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It would be nice if somewhere in this mess, was a 2-10-0 that was built during the Second World War for the U.S.S.R. by American locomotive builders. Unlike the famous "Russian Decapods" of the First World War era that were built for Czarist Russia and then converted to standard gauge to work for various American railroads (Erie, Frisco, SAL, WM, etc.), only one of the Decapods from World War Two stayed in the states, and that engine was eventually scrapped.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:38 pm 

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That's one HECK of a "back 40" for a "museum".................


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:39 pm 
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Les Beckman wrote:
It would be nice if somewhere in this mess, was a 2-10-0 that was built during the Second World War for the U.S.S.R. by American locomotive builders. Unlike the famous "Russian Decapods" of the First World War era that were built for Czarist Russia and then converted to standard gauge to work for various American railroads (Erie, Frisco, SAL, WM, etc.), only one of the Decapods from World War Two stayed in the states, and that engine was eventually scrapped.

Les


There is ... YeA-2201 (Baldwin 70517/1944); also YeS-311 (ALCO 55343/1915) from the batch that were built during WWI.

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:26 pm 

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I will get my brother to translate this for us, he lives near St Petersburg.....maybe get him to go there and take more pictures, sadly it looks rather like a typical Russian museum !!

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:48 pm 
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I wouldn't send your brother there, it's apparently off-limits although those Live Journel people snuck in there according to what was posted after I translated it. That equipment doesn't actually "belong" to the museum there...........it's all "a repository for written off equipment" according to what was posted.

None of the stuff written in Russian actually goes into any important detail about the stuff. They mention the interior of the passenger car was destoyed by vandals and show a few magazines found in there, like the pic of the one with the Kodak Kodachrome film advertisement on it. The tree sprouting on the boiler plate in another pic.

The locomotive interior shots are just that they fullfilled a childhood fantasy of being in a locomotive cab and saw all the valves, gauges, and firebox.


I'm wondering what that blue with yellow stripe diesel loco is, the one with TEM5 on the cab? It looks like a copy of a Baldwin AS-616 to me.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:14 pm 
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MEC_557 wrote:
I'm wondering what that blue with yellow stripe diesel loco is, the one with TEM5 on the cab? It looks like a copy of a Baldwin AS-616 to me.


It is a TEM-5, a Soviet derivative of the 150 ALCO RSD1 diesels that were sent to the Soviet Union along with the Decapods. The original carbon copies they made of the RSD1 were the TE1.

http://alcoworld.railfan.net/plagiate.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:43 am 

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Here is the translation for the article about the Railroad yard, courtesy of my brother in Russia

"Not far from St Petersburg you can find the storage depot of the October Railway Museum. This is the storage area for all written-off rolling stock, so it isn't a museum in itself, and they don't allow visitors inside. But if you manage to escape detection you can get access to unique rarities. Unfortunately everything in there is in extremely bad condition and exposed to the elements as they are not classed as museum exhibits. Their fate is uncertain, but for now they are just sitting there. The area is under guard (while we were there we several times saw guards walking around), it is surrounded by a 2-metre high fence with impenetrable wire mesh netting wrapped around the top. But now back to the locomotives...

Once you've managed to get inside the territory, your eyes don't know where to look first. You see every possible type of rolling stock, several types of steam locomotive, pre-revolution passenger cars, an unidentified object that looked like a crane, an old electric multiple unit, and a TEM5 diesel loco.

The first thing I did was, in fulfilment of a childhood dream, climb into a steam loco. The last time we were there there were less of them and we weren't able to spend so much time examining them.

[...technical info about the subjects of the photos of steam locos]

And now the passenger cars.
I thought the steps were beautiful.
Inside almost all of them with few exceptions were totally destroyed.
Inside one were some photography magazines!

The place is extremely interesting and atmospheric, though we only managed to stay there for about an hour. Unfortunately recently graffiti has started appearing and signs of open vandalism, but that's the time we're living in now. I can't imagine what scum you would have to be to lift a finger against these steel giants, whose time was many decades ago."

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:06 am 

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Here is a link discussing the actual museum with a lot of images.

At the bottom are directions on how to get to the "storage museum"

http://www.internationalsteam.co.uk/trains/russia03.htm

This link shows a map of the area

http://maps.livejournal.com/#/13/59.797 ... 244628906/

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 Post subject: Re: Abandoned Russian Rail Yard
PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:59 pm 

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Here is a translation via Google:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.livejournal.com%2Fru_abandoned%2F932694.html


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