I was under the impression that SMS owned the necessary equipment for the move, and therefore it only cost them in labor and permits. Yes/no?

No, private trucking companys were used. One for the tender, and another for #9. Don't know the costs involved, but #9 made the trip in just about 2 hours!

The price I posted would have included cranes at both ends but as pointed out, it was rolled on and off. And if you get your GE moved with cranes for 5 grand, you've got to let us all know who did it since that is a fantastic price! The only way that may be possible is if the crane company can use a single crane in both locations, and the move is only a couple of miles. Do let us know how and when.

Later!
Mr. Ed

Who are the lads that will be heading up the restoration for SMS?

Wow - it's amazing how quickly #9 has been turned around so far by the SMS guys - do you think they will have some sort of "steam/railfan" sort of event once she's up and running?

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2319473

Picture taken 11/20 (not by me)

And the link opens a log-in screen for a forum to which I don't subscribe nor wish to subscribe.........

Real information and good news always welcome.

dave

Sorry about that! My dumb butt didn't check the link before posting to the board - Dave, I fixed it to the correct link.

By Jove. It's the prototype for those Chance Mfg. "C.P. Huntington" steam-outline B-B (or Bo-Bo, to your Europeans) amusement park locos. Well, OK, it needs Blomberg trucks, but still......

On a slightly less-frivolous note, should I be concerned about what sure looks like a large rectangular hole cut into the bottom side of the firebox?

At least the engine now has roller bearings! IIRC, the firebox repairs were started long ago at New Hope, addressing the holes just above the mudring.

I used to fire that engine years ago; she could really pull! Having seen what SMS can do with the BLWs, I'm sure she will turn out just fine. I'm glad to see that she got a good home.

She's a great puller, and she'll make a terrific sight switching freight. As I recall, she had a considerable left - right swing while hauling tourists, due to the lack of a pony truck. No matter, she was designed for what SMS does with class.

Richard -

These engines were designed so that a pony truck could be added, turning them into 2-6-0's. The Midland Terminal actually performed that operation on 3 or 4 of the engines in their shops and successfully operated them as such in over-the-road freight service. Both Alco and Lima versions were so converted, so it CAN be done! But I don't know of any other company or railroad besides the MT that did a similar conversion. Maybe someone could post a photo of one of the MT Moguls so we could see what such a conversion might look like.

Les

quote="Alexander D. Mitchell IV"
"By Jove. It's the prototype for those Chance Mfg. "C.P. Huntington" steam-outline B-B (or Bo-Bo, to your Europeans) amusement park locos. Well, OK, it needs Blomberg trucks, but still......"

Actually, I believe you are looking at the first 4-0-4 locomotive in history. It tracks really well in forward or reverse but has a problem with traction :)

With thanks once again to the Denver Public Library and Otto Perry:

http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012747+OP-12747


http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012679+OP-12679


http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012677+OP-12677


Want more? There are HUNDREDS of Midland Terminal shots here:

http://history.denverlibrary.org/images/index.html

Mr. Mitchell -

Thanks. These photos also illustrate the easy way to tell the difference between the Alco U.S. Army 0-6-0's and the Lima examples. The Lima engines (like MT #66) had a single sand dome ahead of the steam dome, while the Alco's (such as MT #65) had two sand domes; one on each side of the steam dome. I have often thought that the Army 0-6-0's were handsome little creatures and the addition of the pony truck by the Midland Terminal shop forces just made them that much more so. The ore trains that they moved for the Midland also proved they were very gutsy machines.

Les

Great pictures! Here I repeat what has been said before, NH&I parted out their Lima, #7, and cut up the remains. Today, the Lima would have been saved and probably rebuilt. At any rate, after sitting out under the trees and soaking in rain water for years, #9 is coming back from dormancy.