Positive news for Virginia Museum of Transportation.

Matt Bumgarner · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:34 am

Other good news, along with the #614's visit included in this article

http://www.roanoke.com/extra/arts//wb/271114

Amazingly, I found this on Facebook as well. Two days in a row major news came to me first via this social network.

Matt

RBMN-ENGR. · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:11 pm

Two minor errors. The engine is on the R&N at PORT Clinton, not Fort Clinton and the brake SHOES were replaced, not the brake pads. Glad to see the engine returning to it's home turf................well by way of Roanoke anyway. It will be strange not see it at work anymore.

Emmo213 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:39 pm

Continuing the errors: "The two locomotives were among the last commercially built steam engines in America, said Virginia Museum of Transportation Executive Director Bev Fitzpatrick."

Except 611 was built in house at the N&W Roanoke shops and not purchased commercially.

John D · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:28 pm **Posts:** 484

I was in Roanoke yesterday, and, while not having time to go into VMT, I did walk around back got-I think-a glimpse of 614 next to 611. Can anyone confirm that 614 is now there?

big-bad-2666 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:14 am

Ross did say that he was hoping 614 was going to to be moved by the 15th.

Matt Bumgarner · **Posted:** Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:15 am

No, it is not there yet.

The a posting made to the VMT Facebook page says it will be moved NEXT week.

Matt

RBMN-ENGR. · **Posted:** Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:12 pm

As of yesterday it was still in Port Clinton.

Wowak · **Posted:** Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:06 pm

So is this a prelude to a bid to get 614 rebuilt on NS's dime for the steam program?

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:42 pm

Well, that's only one of the issues in question. It would seem like the correct assumption, but why would NS run a Chessie loco? One might think CSX would consider that. Mr. Rowland will let us in when he's ready, but I can't imagine NS doing simply to show its generous nature. We'll get the word concerning the two 4-8-4's when the fruit is ripe.

I would dearly, dearly, love to see some of that going toward rehabbing 1218.

nathansixchime · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:03 pm **Posts:** 948

Richard Glueck wrote:

Well, that's only one of the issues in question. It would seem like the correct assumption, but why would NS run a Chessie loco?

The article does go onto say...

Quote:

Once the 614 has finished its tour at the transportation museum, it will move again, to the C&O Heritage Railway Center in Clifton Forge. The C&O museum is collaborating with the Roanoke museum on the project.

And NS already has a ready to run fallen flag/heritage locomotive that's 2 pony wheels shy of a 4-8-4 should they need it ;)

KL

co614 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:21 am

Patience is a virtue!! Merry Christmas and a steam filled 2011 to all.

Ross Rowland

Miketherailfan · **Posted:** Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:42 am

Richard Glueck wrote:

Well, that's only one of the issues in question. It would seem like the correct assumption, but why would NS run a Chessie loco? One might think CSX would consider that.

Well, keep in mind NS (moreso Southern at the time) ran a CP 4-6-4, T&P 2-10-2, and a C&O 2-8-4 for awhile in addition to the 4501, 630, 722, and eventually the N&W 611 and 1218. So it wouldn't be more out of the ordinary seeing 614 haul a future NS trip.

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Miketherailfan wrote:

Richard Glueck wrote:

Well, that's only one of the issues in question. It would seem like the correct assumption, but why would NS run a Chessie loco? One might think CSX would consider that.

Well, keep in mind NS (moreso Southern at the time) ran a CP 4-6-4, T&P 2-10-2, and a C&O 2-8-4 for awhile in addition to the 4501, 630, 722, and eventually the N&W 611 and 1218. So it wouldn't be more out of the ordinary seeing 614 haul a future NS trip.

Mike -

Yes, they ran a C&O Kanawha and changed the looks of the 2-8-4 to a "Southern" engine. Could we expect the 614 to be so changed, even if only temporarily? Hmmmmm, wonder what it would look like with a centered headlight and in Southern type lettering? Anybody out there that could do a computer enhancement for us?

Anyway, hope that all of you here at RyPN (staff and readers) have a most wonderful Christmas and a terrific New Year!

Les

davew833 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:08 pm

Ross had the headlight and number plate centered on the smokebox in 1992 to promote his "21st. Century Limited" project and it was on display at the B&O museum for a while that way.
There's pics on this TO thread:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/r ... sg-2329390

I think she looks pretty good that way. IIRC, the C&O Greenbriers came from Lima with the headlight centered, and C&O moved it down. In an article from a mid-80s issue of TRAINS magazine, C&O was snidely given an award by the editors for turning a "silk purse into a sow's ear."

CarNutandTrainNut · **Joined:** Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:01 pm **Posts:** 43

Miketherailfan wrote:

Richard Glueck wrote:

Well, that's only one of the issues in question. It would seem like the correct assumption, but why would NS run a Chessie loco? One might think CSX would consider that.

Well, keep in mind NS (moreso Southern at the time) ran a CP 4-6-4, T&P 2-10-2, and a C&O 2-8-4 for awhile in addition to the 4501, 630, 722, and eventually the N&W 611 and 1218. So it wouldn't be more out of the ordinary seeing 614 haul a future NS trip.

The T&P 610 was a 2-10-4.....

Also, dont forget the SP 4449 that operated briefly with the Southern.......and the NKP 587 and the L&N 152.......