1910 CA caboose frame drawings

car57 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:36 pm

Hi to all,

We are looking for a drawing showing the floor framing for a 1910 UP CA caboose.
Any ideas where we could find something.....the UP Caboose book doesnt have anything...........We need to find a drawing before we decide how to lift !!!!

Ooops shouldnt have said that.....more news soon.

Mike Pannell
Car 57 project

Mike Manson · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:29 am **Posts:** 34

Hi, Mike.

You should check Tony Thompson's book about the CP/SP cabooses. It is Volume 2 of his series on the freight cars.

IIRC, the CA design was used on both Harriman railroads.

Mike Manson

NWPRRHS

car57 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:22 pm

Well......you know what they say about buses...you wait for ages and then two arrive at once..... this is also true of cabooses. After the possibility of obtaining Union Pacific CA 2455 looms so we find another CA literally 2 miles away. This one we believe is earlier maybe a 1907 build CA, it has never carried the Armour yellow scheme implemented in 1947 and this may be 2425 which was withdrawn in 1937.
We will hopefully contact owners shortly and see if we cant rescue both cabooses and see which is the best restoration candidate.

Best Wishes

Mike Pannell
Car 57 project

Dave · **Posted:** Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:00 am

Take both, they're small...........and given most woodwork time is spent in layout and setup, restoring one isn't much worse than two. If you mount one on house moving dollies, you can use it as a mobile fund raiser.

dave

Brian Norden · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:26 am

As stated above, the SP Freight Cars series of books by Anthony W. Thompson has a whole volume (#2) devoted to the SP cabooses. A chapter in the book is about the CA class caboose.

Much of the common standard designs Of the "Associated Lines" had their origins with the SP and its designs. I am told that this is because it had a larger and more intact engineering/design group than the UP did when Harriman took control. The UP staff had suffered during the recession, bankruptcy, and reorganization of the 1890s.

There is a reduced reproduction of an SP drawing showing framing and general arrangement of the Class CA caboose. Drawing is captioned to date from 1905 with revision through 1912. According to the caption, because it is reduced in size some of the smaller text, etc. has been removed.

The short, wide window on each end of the cupola was once used to display the number of the locomotive pulling the train.

Some of the Class CA cars on the SP were built by Pullman, others by Standard Steel Car and a few by AC&F.

I wonder if the IRM Pullman Library has any drawings? Also maybe the UP Museum?