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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:49 pm 

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atsfm177 wrote:
AlcoC420 wrote:
The way I moved the frist 15 to 20 cars, would not be allowed today. Dolley under one end, with brakes and lights, and a king pin plate bolted under the other end. This made for a high load.
Why and or where is this not allowed?
Northern Ohio Rwy. Museum's tow truck company thinks that this method is legal in Ohio, that permits are not required for a towed load on the hook. By this, they mean that the non-dolly end of the rapid transit car has no king pin added, but is just suspended from the hook on the end of the tow truck's lifting cable.


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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:50 pm 
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I didn't see it mentioned but what is the pedigree of the caboose? With the yellow and general location I'd guess UP? Do you know how long it's been part of the marine camp?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:11 pm 

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MEC_557 wrote:
I didn't see it mentioned but what is the pedigree of the caboose? With the yellow and general location I'd guess UP? Do you know how long it's been part of the marine camp?


From Brian's post over on Trainordrs " It's ATSF 999403, ex-1750, Class CE-2. Purchased by Camp Pendleton in the late 1980's and painted into camouflage colors by the base railroad crew."

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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:43 pm 

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robertmacdowell wrote:
Leave it to the Marines. While we fiddle around with jacks and cribs - or worse, 2 giant expensive cranes ...

They actually read the weight specification of the thing they're lifting, and compare it to the capacity of readily available loaders.

There's a lesson!


The Army also does that on occasion. Was called in to re-rail a flatcar at a military base nearby since we were on site doing track repairs. They said "We'll supply a crane" so I figured I'd disconnect the brake rigging, lift up the end of the flat, block it up, pull the trucks out from under, etc, etc...

The crane showed up and I took one look and said "Wow... What's the capacity of that thing?" The replied "100 tons..."

Plan B was much simpler. :) Chain the trucks to the car, and then imitate putting an HO scale car back on the track. 1/2 hour later we were done and outta there.


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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:47 pm 

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JimBoylan wrote:
Northern Ohio Rwy. Museum's tow truck company thinks that this method is legal in Ohio, that permits are not required for a towed load on the hook. By this, they mean that the non-dolly end of the rapid transit car has no king pin added, but is just suspended from the hook on the end of the tow truck's lifting cable.


All righty then... I'd suggest not tailgating them!


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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:51 pm 

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p51 wrote:
You can see photos of this hack when the paintjob was still new and it was being used here, on what looks like a DS victory special, note the former Iraqi (probably mostly Chinese built) vehicle loads: http://www.themech.org/rr/CPRR1.pdf And if you want a HO scale model of this hack, someone makes one! http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Re ... D=ATH74000


Well, that's something that you don't see on the typical tourist train, flatcars loaded with tanks!


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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:56 pm 

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Bobharbison wrote:
JimBoylan wrote:
Northern Ohio Rwy. Museum's tow truck company thinks that this method is legal in Ohio, that permits are not required for a towed load on the hook. By this, they mean that the non-dolly end of the rapid transit car has no king pin added, but is just suspended from the hook on the end of the tow truck's lifting cable.


All righty then... I'd suggest not tailgating them!


I've pondered the HD tow truck option a few time myself. Like the dolly and goosneck method, it will keep the caboose as close to ground as possible minimizing conflict with overhead wires, with the benefit of being able to raise at least the one end to avoid dips and bumps in the road. But I'm not real comfortable doing it that way at any real speed. Could see doing it for short distances at city street speeds. Even at that, you need to come up with some connection to control fore and aft swing.

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 Post subject: How OERM picks up an interurban motor
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:01 pm 

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Here's OERM picking up an interurban motor for movement. Do my eyes deceive me or do I see 4 forklifts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3qjivNTrtg


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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:16 am 

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Here are a few more photos, courtesy of Ron Jonason.

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The reason we went with the step deck trailer is because it was the only trailer available to us which met the criteria for length and weight capacity with a still-relatively-low deck. Clearly illustrated above is how we managed to avoid low hanging traffic signals. The fact that the move was conducted entirely within the confines of Camp Pendleton was a major help!


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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:39 pm 

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I remember back in the early 90's when the caboose was parked by the wharehouses to the left in this pic. I had always wondered what had happened to it. What I remember is that it was at one point painted in desert camoflauge. Glad to see that it has survived to see another day.


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 Post subject: Re: How The USMC Moves a Caboose
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:26 am 

http://www.marines.mil/unit/basecamppen ... whome.aspx


  
 
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