WD class 2-8-0s returned to Britain from Turkey?

santafeboy · **Joined:** Tue May 26, 2009 12:42 am **Posts:** 113

A thread a few pages down made mention of some of the WD 8F class 2-8-0s that were sent to Turkey in the WWII era being returned to Britain no other details were mentioned These locomotives were built by North British Locomotive to LMS 8F designs Does anyone have any further details on this move?

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:49 am

I don't know about 2-8-0's, but an eastern country, possibly from the old Communist block, returned a USRA 0-6-0T to Great Britain, where the cab was opened to make it handicapped accessible. The locomotive was both operable and open to wheelchair bound railfans. This was within the past ten years.

Alexander D. Mitchell IV · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:22 am

To quickly go over the LMS/WD 8F design: They were built by a LOT of builders, not just North British; indeed, scores were built during the war by/for SR, GWR, and LNER, much as we had USRA locos here. Turkey kept quite a few of these locos running into the late 1980s and even early 1990s; I have photos and letters from U.K. friends who went there, "Twilight of World Steam"/Eagleson & Ziel-style, to see them in regular action, back then.

One has definitely been repatriated from Turkey: LMS 8274/WD 348/Turkish State Railways (TCDD) 45160, which is now at the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway.

Two others, TCDD 45166 and 45170 which never bore British railway numbers, are either back on British soil or about to be--the info on these two that I can pull up has either not been updated recently or conflicts. There are supposedly efforts being raised to grab a couple others from Turkey, but.......

There are seven other LMS 8F's preserved in Britain, as well as two more TCDD ones in Turkey and supposedly another neglected ruin in Iraq.

survivingworldsteam · **Posted:** Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:15 pm

Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:

One has definitely been repatriated from Turkey: LMS 8274/WD 348/Turkish State Railways (TCDD) 45160, which is now at the Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway.

Two others, TCDD 45166 and 45170 which never bore British railway numbers, are either back on British soil or about to be--the info on these two that I can pull up has either not been updated recently or conflicts. There are supposedly efforts being raised to grab a couple others from Turkey, but.......

There are seven other LMS 8F's preserved in Britain, as well as two more TCDD ones in Turkey and supposedly another neglected ruin in Iraq.

...and the blown apart remains of two of them on the wreck of the SS Thistlegorm in the Gulf of Suez.

sleepermonster · **Joined:** Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:57 pm **Posts:** 100

Heritage Railway magazine came out today with a picture of 45170 outside the Locomotion museum at Shildon. Elsewhere on the National-Preservation website it is reported to be destined for the facility of 76084 Locomotive Limited at Morpeth, which in turn indicates the North Yorkshire Moors Railway as a likely destination.

In the same article 45166 is reported as to be restored by the Barry Railway Centre in South Wales.

Tim