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 Post subject: Re: WD Baldwin 4-6-0T
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:42 pm 

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There is also a baldwin 2-6-2T operating in France at Nemours. This much travelled machine was sold to the Penrhyn Quarry Railway in North Wales and there named Felin Hen, resold to an Australian sugar mill, preserved, and then re-sold to France a few years ago. it seems to be in full working order. I think the site is www.tacot-des-lacs.com. I also read somewhere that this group have the chassis of a baldwin 4-6-0 mounted with a diesel engine.

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 Post subject: Re: WD Baldwin 4-6-0T
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:15 pm 

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daylight4449 wrote:
William Shelford wrote:
778, the Baldwin 4-6-0T on the Leighton Buzzard Railway, in Bedfordshire, England (where I volunteer) has spent the last two weeks back in France, for the first time, since the the First World War.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBK4NxBuP9o.

Well, to bad we can't pull something like that off here in the states...


Ummmmm .....we did actually send many locomotives to France since WW I, mostly during and after WW II. Check out the 141R class. Not sure why you think sending more of our few remaining operating steamers to France is desireable, but no doubt you have your reasons.

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 Post subject: Re: WD Baldwin 4-6-0T
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:10 am 

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Dave wrote:
daylight4449 wrote:
William Shelford wrote:
778, the Baldwin 4-6-0T on the Leighton Buzzard Railway, in Bedfordshire, England (where I volunteer) has spent the last two weeks back in France, for the first time, since the the First World War.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBK4NxBuP9o.

Well, to bad we can't pull something like that off here in the states...


Ummmmm .....we did actually send many locomotives to France since WW I, mostly during and after WW II. Check out the 141R class. Not sure why you think sending more of our few remaining operating steamers to France is desireable, but no doubt you have your reasons.

dave

No, what I was trying to say is why can't we take our stuff, whether it be diesel, steam, or electric, between different countries. I guess we could do that with Canada, but i'm refering to somewhere off the continent.

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 Post subject: Re: WD Baldwin 4-6-0T
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:50 am 

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There have been US built locomotives (steam, diesel, and electric) operating all over the world for many decades, both "domestic" and "export" types. They have been of relatively little interest to most US railroad enthusiasts and to most of the US railfan publications.

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 Post subject: Re: WD Baldwin 4-6-0T
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:21 am 

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[quote="daylight4449No, what I was trying to say is why can't we take our stuff, whether it be diesel, steam, or electric, between different countries. I guess we could do that with Canada, but i'm refering to somewhere off the continent.[/quote]

OK, there's this thing called the "European Union".

Many countries in that part of the world - most of which are smaller than 2 average US states put together, and all of which have been somewhat cooperating in transportation issues since before 1900 - now share a common set of regulations and in many cases currency. This makes it easy to demonstrate compliance with safety and operating rules and with economic considerations, much like Barney Gramling taking Flagg Coal from Florida to Texas.

If we should want to operate in France, India or Australia, we'd need to prove compliance with a different set of regulations and standards, and deal with different economic systems and currencies. It is also a very long trip.......relative to crossing the channel through the chunnel.

THINK things through before posting. Please. This is getting very annoying. Howard is correct, you are achieving a sort of fame you probably don't intend.

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 Post subject: Re: WD Baldwin 4-6-0T
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:38 pm 

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daylight4449 wrote:
No, what I was trying to say is why can't we take our stuff, whether it be diesel, steam, or electric, between different countries. I guess we could do that with Canada, but i'm refering to somewhere off the continent.


There's also this thing called a "loading gauge." The biggest locos in the U.K. look almost "toylike" in the United States next to conventional rolling stock. Many of their express locomotives weighed in at half the weight of American counterparts.

Then there's this problem that certain places like Ireland, Spain, Russia, etc. with larger loading gauges have different track gauges.......


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