Brill Motor Truck available

PCook · **Joined:** Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:16 am **Posts:** 2127

And there will be even less of a market in the future, and many more groups are going to be cleaning out the back lot and turning it into cash when the opportunity presents itself. After months of obsfication, the US media is finally starting to arrive at the conclusion made months ago by some of the foreign press, that we are in a major economic depression. It is going to be a challenging time ahead, and turning surplus items into cash will become increasingly common. If you have enough money you can influence the outcome, if you don't have money to purchase the items there is no use in getting upset about things being cut up.

PC

wesp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:06 am

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RMNE has this Brill Motor Truck available at Saybrook, CT. It has good wheels, AP Timken journal bearings, GE 292 A 51 motors. It was the motor truck from a full-sized, 70-foot Brill motor car. There are a few more photos available. If interested, contact me. Don't delay, this will be scrapped soon if there is no interest. No trades, no 3-way swap-a-thons, just bring a truck and cash (or good check).

So to summarize, there is apparently no interest on the part of the current owners of Brill motor cars, assuming the truck is compatable. And RMNE has had no bona fide offers besides the 100# crossing and Dylan's proposal. In there any salvage value in the GE 292 A 51motors, wheels/axles, and bearings as separate parts for other projects?

Wesley

Howard P. · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:24 am

Looks like there may be a couple of possible "bona-fide" offers in the works. Next week or so should separate the wheat from the chaff...

Howard P.

Alexander D. Mitchell IV · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:29 am

wesp wrote:

Is there any salvage value in the GE 292 A 51motors, wheels/axles, and bearings as separate parts for other projects?

I shot a message with this query out to two historical-minded parts brokers of my acquaintance. Neither has gotten back to me. Westinghouse railroad electricals, as I was told by one of them a while back, have a reputation for over-engineering (read: bulky and capable of nice short-term overload, the reason Baldwins got a reputation as "luggers") yet still prone to failure. That being said, someone with more textbooks than I have will have to tell us if a 292A51 has any practical re-use capability..... remembering that the last two or three Baldwin loco users already have "massive" stockpiles of spare locos from which to draw....

Howard P. · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:57 am

Tried to attach some more pics of this thing, but keep getting an error message of "attachment quota exceeded".

It has a "GENERAL ELECTRIC Service Shops Department REPAIRED" tag on it; is this a GE or Westinghouse motor?

The journals are 5 1/2" x 10" Timken AP roller bearings.

Howard P.

Mount Royal · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:58 am

[quote="daylight4449 But another idea comes up; why not section the truck and display it in the waiting room at Thomaston depot? .[/quote]

NO.

Jim King · **Joined:** Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:23 pm **Posts:** 17

If the truck is still available, we at the Craggy Mountain Line near Asheville NC are interested in saving it and moving to our yard for possible use. Contact me off-list at jimking3@charter.net to discuss price, condition, terms, moving, weight, etc.

Thanks,
Jim King
CML Trainmaster

Jim King · **Joined:** Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:23 pm **Posts:** 17

wesp wrote:

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RMNE has this Brill Motor Truck available at Saybrook, CT. It has good wheels, AP Timken journal bearings, GE 292 A 51 motors. It was the motor truck from a full-sized, 70-foot Brill motor car. There are a few more photos available. If interested, contact me. Don't delay, this will be scrapped soon if there is no interest. No trades, no 3-way swap-a-thons, just bring a truck and cash (or good check).

So to summarize, there is apparently no interest on the part of the current owners of Brill motor cars, assuming the truck is compatable. And RMNE has had no bona fide offers besides the 100# crossing and Dylan's proposal. In there any salvage value in the GE 292 A 51motors, wheels/axles, and bearings as separate parts for other projects?

Wesley

Wes >> we're interested in purchasing this truck. Contact me at jimking3@charter.net with details, price, etc. We can move the truck on a truck, no problem.

Jim King 6/23/2011
Trainmaster
Craggy Mountain Line

6-18003 · **Joined:** Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:31 am **Posts:** 728

The only listing I can find in the BERA search with a similar motor would be a steeple cab electric at the MOT is St. Louis, showing GE 51A motors. You may want to try them.

From NERAIL:

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This diminutive steeplecab is part of the collection of the Museum of Transportation near St. Louis. It is the first electric locomotive ever built by General Electric, in 1893; it was rebuilt in 1901 and worked for the Manufacturers Railroad in Connecticut until 1948. It was displayed by GE at Erie from 1948 until 1964, when it was acquired by MOT.

I also passed this on to the ECTMA but I have no idea if they have a need for it or not.

Frank Hicks · **Posted:** Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:58 pm

6-18003 wrote:

The only listing I can find in the BERA search with a similar motor would be a steeple cab electric at the MOT is St. Louis, showing GE 51A motors. You may want to try them.

It sounds like the motor type in this truck is GE 292A51, which would be some obscure variant of the GE 292 motor I assume. I would speculate that it bears no relation to the GE 51 motors under the steeplecab at MOT, which are of a pretty early type. I did note, though, that it's the same general type (292A) as the UP doodlebug at IRM.

6-18003 · **Joined:** Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:31 am **Posts:** 728

Yeah, I really don't know much about the ins and outs of what will interchange or the model designations, figured it was worth mentioning though. There are no listings that I can find on BERA under a GE 292.