CPR 2816 Out of Service

Afboone · **Posted:** Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:32 pm

That's what I'm saying. Things break!

Roger Mitchell · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:02 pm **Posts:** 76

When you break it you fix it. Been there done that. Last summer we broke an axle on our streetcar here in Fort Collins. After doing some research, we found Lyons Industries and contracted the work to them to make 2 new axles for us, do the press work and reprofile all 4 wheels. They did an excillent job at a very reasonable price.

Newriver400 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:05 pm

Frisco1522 wrote:

Absolutely Dave! It's not the end of life as we know it. If the drivers are keyed, it's a matter of the correct fit. TVRM is an excellent driver shop as is Strasburg.
Could have been something a lot worse than an axle crack. Wonder how they found it?

I, too, am curious about how it made itself known. I do realize things wear out and fail, just seemed a bit odd for a locomotive that is as carefully looked after and run as little (relatively speaking) as 2816 and there has been no official or insider posting on what the real problem is. As far as we know, she didn't get abused by the likes of RJ Corman or Hulcher like another very nice engine did...

Are there really any rod engine driving wheel sets that are not keyed? My limited memory (been a while since I was engrossed in mechanical details of real locomotives) serves to remind me that everyone I've ever noticed had keyed wheel and axle fittings.

In other thoughts, this just goes to prove that it's a good thing to have more than one good iron horse in your stable when things do go wrong - 3100 or 3101 or 1201 or 2850 come to mind, or they could just borrow 1293. Oddly, most other times would have the 2860 or 2317 available for service, but both are down for now. CP sure had some nice locomotives and Mr. Morant sure captured some great images of them.

Mike
Cornelius Beaver Country, Indiana

Frisco1522 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:23 pm

I can't imagine a driver not being keyed to the axle. Think slippage.

Dave · **Posted:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:51 am

If there's anything to be gained, it is the value of good inspection and detection procedures. Most axles break back where the wheel center meets the hub - not an easy thing to see in a casual observation.

dave

Newriver400 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:38 am

Frisco1522 wrote:

I can't imagine a driver not being keyed to the axle. Think slippage.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking...

jasonsobczynski · **Posted:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:03 am

Indeed all axles are keyed on North American built locomotives. The only two methods coming to mind by which they could have detected a cracked axle are: 1) they performed an Ultrasonic inspection of the axle ends 2) The axles are hollow and lubricant residuals were observed oozing out of the axle center.

Cheers, Jason

David Notarius · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:22 pm

What is the latest news on the 2816? Thanks - David Notarius

Bobk · **Posted:** Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:58 pm

I believe that a new axle was machined not long ago for this engine. Also the procedure used for pressing the wheels on involved chilling the axle ends in liquid nitrogen. The CP shop has the experiance and can do this job, just takes $