Dean -

Thanks for this posting. I found an old photo of this tender coupled to Indiana Railway Museum's 0-4-0T #11. Although I know that the saddletanker was used on INRM trains at one time, I don't know if the tender was also used when it was run, or if it was just a later addition to the little Baldwin for appearance sake.

Les

Les,

I'll have to look through my library, but I seem to recall a picture of the IRM #11 running with a tender (same tender in pics?) in "Twilight of Steam."

It has been a long time, but I believe that the tender is ex-C&O.

When i first became involved with the Indiana railway Museum at Greensburg, Indiana, one of my first jobs was to haul water from the city water plant in a 1,000 gallon tank wagon, behind a pickup truck for the steam locomotive. The tender was connected to the steam locomotive via a large hose. While the #11 was a saddle tank locomotive, we pumped the water into the tender, as it held 5,000 to 6,000 gallons of water. the water would transfer by gravity to the saddle tank, if the tender was full or near full.

We would haul water early in the morning, as the locomotive was being fired up. By using the tender, filling it, we could make our 3 runs without hauling water till the evening or the next morning. We tried to do the water when there were no customers around.

The tender also contained two 275 gallon fuel oil tanks, which along with the saddle tank, allowed use to carry enough fuel for an entire weekend.

Bill and Les...

here is a picture of #11 in French Lick the other day... thought you would like to see what it looks like... so in theory the tender was attached as more of a cosmetic thing to give the appearance of a conventional locomotive ? Any clue what #11 was built for ?


Dean

As stated in my prior post, the tender was not a "cosmetic thing".

Number 11 was built new in 1936 and was purchased from the Indiana and Ohio Gravel and Stone Company in Greencastle, Indiana.

One of the interesting things about this locomotive is, It has roller bearing on the axles. They have a housing that incases the entire axle between the driver wheels and has a larger roller bearing on each end. We had one of these fail, but Timken had one on the shelf and I drove to Canton, Ohio to pick it up.

Both wheel sets went to the Beech Grove shop, had the wheels pressed off, the bearing installed and then both wheel sets were turned on the lathe. This was one of the last wheel jobs done at Beech Grove before Amtrak took over the shop.

Les, Dean, etc. I just checked the photo I was referring to of #11 and it does not show it running with the tender. My apologies.

T-215 is still there. It was paired with 37 during its time in operation on the W&W and I'm sure you recall, they used the tender on the trips up the W&N and PRR branches of Octoraro with 98. The coal bunker sides were removed in the late 80s. Sadly, since 37 went OOS in 1991, the tender has sat on 1 track or there about, slowly rotting away even further than it was when in service with 37. I would not recommend anyone attempt to walk on the rear deck, less they wish their body great harm.

The Reading MOWtender now up at the Reading Railroad Museum was at one time the tender for 37 on the W&C...but fell out of favor quickly. It was on the W&W just until a few years ago stored on a siding.

Bill -

Thanks for checking. I found another photo of number 11 at Westport sitting at the head of a "train" without the tender. AlcoC420 says that it was used though with the 0-4-0T in Greensburg, so maybe it was purchased by the museum after they moved from Westport.

Les

Couple of pics, just for fun. God bless. Seth

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 48&nseq=11

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 91&nseq=77

There is a MILW tender sitting at Ingomar, MT. Used to be the water source for the town. Found a picture on Flicker
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32641269@N07/5907194022/

An earlier post mentioned that there are some tenders minus their locomotives at the Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad in Mineral, Washington. We actually have five orphan tenders on the property:

exx-Chehalis Western #211 (ex-Atlanta, Birmingham & Coast #211, nee-AB&C #102), last used by CW as a water car (Baldwin)
exx-Chehalis Western #215 (ex-Atlanta, Birmingham & Coast #215, nee-AB&C #106), last used by CW as a water car (Baldwin)
ex-Canadian National #52146 (unknown mfr.), last used by CN as a water car
ex-Chehalis Western #23 (nee-CMSt.P&P, # unknown), six-axle, last used by CW in weed sprayer service (identical to the one mentioned in the previous post)
ex-Northwestern Pacific shorty Vanderbilt tender, reportedly from locomotive #136. Previously used behind our Porter 2-8-2 #5, then used as an aux. tank behind our ALCO 2-8-2T #17. Currently "displayed" behind the #5 again.

Brian Wise
General Manager
Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad

Do you have any photos of the ex CN tender (52146)?

Here's a photo of our ex-CN tender. We are in the process of adapting it for auxiliary tender service.

Brian Wise
General Manager
Mt. Rainier Scenic Railroad

Hello all. Neat photo from 1976. Check out the steam tender in wreck train service. Upper left corner. God bless. Seth

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=380131

There is a Norfolk and Western water canteen 15,000gal sitting at steamtown in scranton,pa its been in the yard for years. that would be a candidate to convert back for tender use for one of the lost engines without a tender. plus its another piece of N&W history that would be useful again.