Decade of the 2-8-0 Consolidation?

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Goodness! I noticed that Boyd Owens posted a couple of FLIMSIES notices of the Hartwell Railroad wanting to lease and restore Central of Georgia 2-8-0 #509 to service, and that the City of Macon, which owns the old Baldwin, is apparently receptive to the deal. This would add to the recent restorations to service of Consolidations that have been out of service for many years. Including the following (as again amended):

Duluth & Northeastern #14 in Fillmore, California

Duluth & Northeastern #28 (ex-DM&IR #332) in Cloquet, Minnesota

New Hope & Ivyland #40 in New Hope, Pennsylvania

Southern #154 in Knoxville, Tennessee

Southern #401 in Monticello, Illinois

Southern #630 in Chattanooga, Tennessee

Maybe there's some hope that other, long out of service 2-8-0's, might also see steam this decade.

*NOTE - I've again amended this list to include the surprise firing up of D&NE #28 as reported in a separate thread here on RyPN on July 4th, 2012. The original idea behind this thread was the news that the Hartwell Railroad was going to restore Central of Georgia 2-8-0 #509 to service. That plan appears now to be in abeyance. And who knows where the "test firing" (or whatever it was) of D&NE 28 will eventually lead, if anywhere. But the fact is, she WAS fired up. She DID run under her own power. Maybe only a one time thing, but still worthy enough as a "long out of service 2-8-0" (as defined above) to be included in this thread.

Les

tomgears · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:58 pm

Didn't Hartwell run steam some years ago?

rjenkins · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:06 pm

Les Beckman wrote:

This would add to the recent restorations to service of Consolidations that have been out of service for many years. Including:

Southern #154 in Knoxville, Tennessee

Southern #401 in Monticello, Illinois

Southern #630 in Chattanooga, Tennessee

Don't forget Duluth & Northeastern #14 in Fillmore, California.

Steven Ashley · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:00 pm

tomgears wrote:

Didn't Hartwell run steam some years ago?

Yes, the Hartwell used to operate former Reader 2-6-2 11 from 1983 until about 1988 when the locomotive was sold to the Kentucky Central Railroad which ran from about 1989 until 1993 when CSX took over the TTI Railroad over whose tracks the Kentucky Central trains operated. Living within 2 hours of the Hartwell it would be wonderful to see steam there once again.

Steven Ashley

JohnCloos · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:59 pm **Posts:** 308

A good candidate to add to the list would be IRM's UP 428.

She felt steam and fire again for the first time in 51 years when test fired in August 2009. Ongoing efforts are still needed to complete the work and add it to the operational roster at IRM, but one would think it likely that it should be completed by the end of the decade for inclusion on your list.

derail · **Joined:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:45 pm **Posts:** 142

I have been calling this the year of the Consolidation, now that you mention it this should last a decade. Black River & Western Consolidation type #60 should operate this year.

Scott

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

rjenkins wrote:

Les Beckman wrote:

This would add to the recent restorations to service of Consolidations that have been out of service for many years. Including:

Southern #154 in Knoxville, Tennessee

Southern #401 in Monticello, Illinois

Southern #630 in Chattanooga, Tennessee

Don't forget Duluth & Northeastern #14 in Fillmore, California.

Richard -

I did forget D&NE #14 and added it to the original list. Shame on me as I rode behind the engine on a fantrip in 1962 when it was still in service for the D&NE.

Les

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

JohnCloos wrote:

A good candidate to add to the list would be IRM's UP 428.

She felt steam and fire again for the first time in 51 years when test fired in August 2009. Ongoing efforts are still needed to complete the work and add it to the operational roster at IRM, but one would think it likely that it should be completed by the end of the decade for inclusion on your list.

John -

Nothing would make me happier than adding Union Pacific 428 to the list.

Les

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

derail wrote:

I have been calling this the year of the Consolidation, now that you mention it this should last a decade. Black River & Western Consolidation type #60 should operate this year.

Scott

Scott -

As soon as she runs that first official trip, I'll add #60.

Les

mikefrommontana · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:30 pm

JohnCloos wrote:

A good candidate to add to the list would be IRM's UP 428.

She felt steam and fire again for the first time in 51 years when test fired in August 2009. Ongoing efforts are still needed to complete the work and add it to the operational roster at IRM, but one would think it likely that it should be completed by the end of the decade for inclusion on your list.

Does that mean her 15 year flue time clock is running?

Michael Seitz
Missoula MT

daylight4449 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:36 am

While great, every good thing comes to an end. Just my thoughts, but with 4449 going out in two years for overhaul, while many larger steamers will be sidelined, or already are (MILW 261 and the majority of Jacobson's collection in Sugarcreek). I wouldn't call this decade of the consoldation, but decade of the freight engine. More 2-8-0s and 2-8-2s are being added to the list. Reader 108 should run within a few years (to my knowledge, with a name: David Paul Lambert Sr.). I'd love to get the Maine Central 501 running, but that's the problem when you're a high school student.

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Les Beckman wrote:

Goodness! I noticed that Boyd Owens posted a couple of FLIMSIES notices of the Hartwell Railroad wanting to lease and restore Central of Georgia 2-8-0 #509 to service, and that the City of Macon, which owns the old Baldwin, is apparently receptive to the deal. This would add to the recent restorations to service of Consolidations that have been out of service for many years. Including the following (as amended a second time):

Black River & Western (ex-Great Western) #60 in Flemington, New Jersey

Duluth & Northeastern #14 in Fillmore, California

New Hope & Ivyland #40 in New Hope, Pennsylvania

Southern #154 in Knoxville, Tennessee

Southern #401 in Monticello, Illinois

Southern #630 in Chattanooga, Tennessee

Maybe there's some hope that other, long out of service 2-8-0's, might also see steam this decade.

Les

Above list amended here at the end of 2011 for NH&I 40.

Les

Amended the list again as of 8/9/12 to reflect the operation of BR&W #60. Also removed D&NE #28 (DM&IR #332) due to no confirmation of an actual fire-up.

Les

limejuice · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:58 pm **Posts:** 80

Afaik, NH&I 40 hasn't been out of service for more than a year since 1991.

westward · **Joined:** Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:24 am **Posts:** 13

Hi,

Here are some more 2-8-0's running/being restored:

White Pass &Yukon #69 (36" gauge) was restored to service in the last decade.

Alaska RR #557 currently on it's way back to the ARR for restoration to operation.

Alder Gulch Shortline in Montana (30" gauge) xMexico/Edaville restored in the 1990's

D&RGW #315 (36" gauge) in Colorado restored in 2007.

Nevada Northern/NCC/KCC #93 restored in the 1990's.

Former Great Western Ry # 75 being restored at Heber Valley RR, Utah.

Don

Don

John Redden · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:53 pm **Posts:** 220

Les,

Arcade & Attica #18 (former Boyne City RR) was restored to operation in 2008, after many years of storage.

JR