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 Post subject: Avoid reading this red herring K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:34 pm 

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http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/conte ... ml?nav=742

Article is either yesterday or today. A sad decision, but probably the best we could hope for. I don't like the idea of low pressure steaming merely to blow the whistle. On the other hand, this gives all you Pennsy guys a further incentive to make a donation to support the restorations of either Long Island G5s #35 or #39, by writing a check to Oyster Bay Rail Road Museum or Rail Road Museum of Long Island, and specifically earmarking the funds for the steam locomotives. 39 is partially finished with her boiler repaired at Strasburg, while 35 is heading to Steam Service in Alabama, this year.

By support either or both of these locomotives, you will see PRR steam locomotives fired again.

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:03 pm 

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Beyond the cubic sums of money spent on the K-4 to date, I'm kind of surprised, 'er shocked, at how much money the article claims has been spent on yard on track work because the property is not that large. So I'm left to conclude that the lion's share of the money was probably spent on structures and the turntable. I can appreciate a large sum of money going into the turntable, and specifically, the turntable pit. I remember seeing progress pictures on the museums website showing the construction of the pit and I was blown away at the extent of the reinforced concrete foundation work. The soil must be very week there in that particular part of Altoona. At any rate, it is hard to see how there could be a happy ending here.

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:19 pm 

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Article was from April 2010 I think things have changed since then!

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:21 pm 

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How can you fire up a steam engine just to blow the whistle? This doesn't make much sense to me. Sorry if I am alone on this one.

Hoping for the best.

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:30 pm 

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Mike Tillger wrote:
Article was from April 2010 I think things have changed since then!

Mike Tillger



At least somebody read the article date!

And people wonder why normal discussion about a certain Juniata product cannot be had on this forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:37 pm 

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Yeesh, I'll never assume anything when I click to a newspaper article anymore!


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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:40 pm 

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No news like old news.


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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:46 pm 

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You travel the K4 to a friendly branch line and run your excursion there, people will come. as for the boiler, 765 was given the 13 year makeover to bring to specs. I dont know the boiler construction for the k4 but true boiler design back then was different, but don't blow it off, engines that age are still running. never say never.
you want this K4 to run, stop wimping off and bloody do it!

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:05 pm 

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Wow - I got all sorts of disappointed, but then saw the date as well. So then the question, why was this posted on here originally and listed as "today or yesterday"?


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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:31 pm 

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My fault! I'm sorry! It was presented to me as today's news and I overlooked the date.
I read the note about Joe Paterno's death and assumed the article was fresh news. It sounded familiar but I jumped straight to the article.
Egg on my face.
Rust in my journals.
I beg forgiveness. I made a mistake.

Randy or Tom, please yank the thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:45 pm 

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Before Randy or Tom "...yank the thread..." Is there any recent news on the 1361 from Altonna?


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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:37 pm 

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Yes please--I've rarely posted here, but I wonder if there is a reliable update on the status. LAst I read the boiler was being tested at East Broad Top?

I'm not interested in blaming anyone or denouncing anyone, just want to know the status if possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:01 pm 

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Richard Glueck wrote:
My fault! I'm sorry! It was presented to me as today's news and I overlooked the date.
I read the note about Joe Paterno's death and assumed the article was fresh news. It sounded familiar but I jumped straight to the article.
Egg on my face.
Rust in my journals.
I beg forgiveness. I made a mistake.

Randy or Tom, please yank the thread.


I think you can just go back and edit your original post, no?

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:36 pm 

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Yes, Steve, I could, but the following responses would be in reference to nothing. Suffice to say, the newspaper article was a false lead, a red herring, a dead issue. I have since been told that things are NOT as dismal as the newspaper article had lead readers to believe, and in fact, the Altoona paper printed a retraction of the piece a day or two afterwards.

That still does not mitigate the importance of supporting the two LIRR G5 projects, as they are determined to run both locomotives after a complete overhaul with proper boiler standards. I would advise people to contact the Railroaders Museum directly for further information on their most loved of all steam locomotives, K4s 1361.

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 Post subject: Re: Sad but realistic K4s 1361 news
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:46 pm 
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Richard, you could always edit the subject line in such a way that it would discourage further comment.

Something like, "move along folks, nothing to see here" Image

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