Canadian National #1521/ #1274

T.J. Gaffney · **Posted:** Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:03 pm

Does anyobody know for sure where this locomotive is now? Its shown as being with the Steck estate on the site below, but as far as I knew nothing is left in Reese. I talked with one of her former owner's (Bob Bennatt) and he said that last he knew it was back in Canada.

TJ

Canadian National #1521
tjgaffney@phmuseum.org

Ken Jones · **Posted:** Fri Jan 02, 2004 10:47 pm

> Does anyobody know for sure where this
> locomotive is now?

The 1521 is now located in Clementsport Nova Scotia, as part of a display train at the Upper Clements Theme Park....

Ken Jones

Niagara Falls Railway Museum
digitekfx@kwic.com

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Two questions:

1. Is this locomotive still located at the Upper Clements Theme Park in Nova Scotia?

2. Is this the only Belpaire firebox CN steamer preserved?

Thanks.

Les

joe6167 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:52 pm

Les,

It's been in NS since 1989.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/archer10/4851729104/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archer10/4851116051/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archer10/4851120439/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archer10/4851114763/

CNR 593, a narrow gauge engine from the Newfoundland Railway appears to have a Belpaire firebox.

David Notarius · **Posted:** Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:19 pm

Howdy; Does anyone know if the 1521 is being considered for full restoration to service? Or she more or less stuffed and mounted? I am currently doing research on sister CNR 4-6-0 1533 for a project, and would like t know if anyone has a more complete history of the 1521/1274 while in service (photos?)? Also the story of when and why she was once used as a billboard? Thanks everyone – Dave Notarius, London UK, ex New Hope PA

TRS · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:14 am

Saltwire Network: https://www.saltwire.com/news/provincia ... um-487876/

Canadian National Railway 1521, 4-6-0 (Montreal Locomotive Works 30563 / 1905), CNR class H-6-b

Middleton Railway Museum: http://www.middletonrailwaymuseum.org/

jayrod · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:41 pm

Wow. I’m impressed. The usual appurtenances that always seem to disappear seem to have survived intact.

PaulWWoodring · **Posted:** Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:24 am

Sister engine to Ohio Central 1551, right?

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:41 pm

These engines were the subjects of a 2009 rypn thread:

"I have listed a link below to a CN steam roster that might be of some help. It appears that the three locomotives were clustered together in the 1500 series during a 1955/56 renumbering. You have to be careful using the roster as original locomotives which carried these number were scrapped or disposed of relatively early on.

H6-b 1521 was originally 1274 built in 1905.
H6-d 1533 was originally 1324 built in 1910.
H6-g 1551 was originally 1354 built in 1912-13.

Note the inward canted cylinders on 1521 whereas 1533 and 1551 did not share this trait with her either. I hope this helps.

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/TORONTO/CNRsteam.html

Don C."

The 1500-series was a catchall for CNR 4-6-0's whose numbers (and jobs) were taken by new GMD SW1200RS units. Ironically they used up the 1200-1300 numbers and some SW1200RS units got 1500-series numbers above the 4-6-0's.

Phil Mulligan

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:56 pm

NH&I 1533 is the one which should get the green light for complete CNR restoration, imho. Talk about neglect! She's totally apart and should be made available to some reputable group.

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:46 pm

1533 was a good engine.

When the original owners of the NH&I had exhausted their money without buying a diesel, and they couldn't afford to lease one, 1533 had to work freight year round. She was the only steam engine that could run New Hope to the RDG interchange and back without loading water.

She did that for several years.

Here's a video of 1533 on freight. This is NOT a photo freight; this is 1533 reprising what she had done in Ontario 15 years earlier. Southern boxcars are from a paper mill in New Hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agRt0aR0xJw

Phil Mulligan

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

EJ Berry wrote:

1533 was a good engine.

Here's a video of 1533 on freight. This is NOT a photo freight; this is 1533 reprising what she had done in Ontario 15 years earlier. Southern boxcars are from a paper mill in New Hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agRt0aR0xJw

Phil Mulligan

Phil -

It looks as if the first car in the freight might have been a DL&W "Route of Phoebe Snow" boxcar. Just when the smoke cleared right near the end of the tape the quick image appears. Anyone have a larger screen than I have to tell for sure?

Les

EJ Berry · **Posted:** Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:30 pm

Good eye; it is indeed a DL&W "Phoebe Snow" boxcar. The video is undoubtedly an 8mm movie from 1969 and not all that sharp.

1533 is running so cleanly Phoebe would be proud. Her gown would have stayed white. The white "smoke" is condensing exhaust steam hitting the cold air.

The caboose is an ex-CNJ "plywood palace" car.

Phil Mulligan