Real estate with rail relics on it

Stephen Hussar · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:50 am

Ran across this place about a month ago...driving along on a back road, in the middle of nowhere in Vermont! (at least I think it was Vermont...may possibly have wandered into New Hampshire). These cars are located a few hundred feet away from a very nice looking home, in the side yard. Guess someone wanted their own private "Victoria Station."

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Stephen -

Interesting private collection. Wonder if anybody has any info on the equipment? Is the "Santa Fe" caboose ex-Wabash? Ex-CB&Q? Ex-C&EI? Or......? The bay window caboose appears a bit unusual in that its bay window seems "offset". The track also seems to wander off into the woods in the distance. Might there be other equipment located there?

Les

Stephen Hussar · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:42 am

Les et al, here's a pic of the bay window caboose...also, track definitely ends at the tree line. Just these three cars on the property.

car57 · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:03 am

Details of the spurious UP caboose here.......

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?19990 ... NG=caboose

and this old RYPN thread here

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28163

Mike Pannell
Cheyenne

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Stephen and Mike -

Thanks. So, the "Union Pacific" bay window caboose is supposedly originally B&LE or Rutland, by way of the Green Mountain (GMRC). Anyone know for sure?

The steamlined offset cupola "Santa Fe" caboose is supposedly ex-Conrail. Really? I can't figure out where Conrail would have got such a caboose.

Help still needed me thinks!

Les

Stephen Hussar · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:41 pm

There is another former GMRC bay window caboose (identical to the one above) located in a front yard in Manchester, VT.

SH

o anderson · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:30 pm

If you were wondering about the Santa Fe caboose, it obviously has a prototype, as shown in the photo below...

Not uncommon to see this, like the Santa Fe locomotive that was made up in Eastern Europe. It helps to reassure the relationship between collecting small trains and big ones. Interpretive museums are another thing.

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

o anderson wrote:

If you were wondering about the Santa Fe caboose, it obviously has a prototype, as shown in the photo below...

Not uncommon to see this, like the Santa Fe locomotive that was made up in Eastern Europe. It helps to reassure the relationship between collecting small trains and big ones. Interpretive museums are another thing.

Olin -

Thanks. I wonder if the caboose there in Vermont (or New Hampshire) has the same number as the one in the TYCO box.

Les

o anderson · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:32 pm

Hey Les,
It appears a 2-bay hopper is also in this small collection. I am kinda surprised it is not painted in an American Flyer, Wabash or Lehigh Valley paint scheme. :)
O.

onequiknova · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:47 pm

The red caboose is most certainly ex Wabash.

robertmacdowell · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:17 pm

I recognized it immediately as an Ann Arbor caboose, but with messed up windows. That rhymes with Wabash, since they were in common control.

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

If this really IS a Ann Arbor caboose, what is its number? These streamlined cupola cabooses were all built by the Wabash in its Decatur shops for the AA, which the Wabash controlled at the time. The cabooses were numbered Ann Arbor 2830 - 2846. There is a nice list of these cabooses and their current whereabouts which states that AA 2846 suffered a fire and was scrapped in 1984. All others are accounted for EXCEPT numbers 2841 and 2842. Is this one of those two?

Les

wesp · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:53 pm

Returning to the subject at hand....

I am staying at Lake Junaluska, NC where the former Southern Station was moved to a nearby lot and serves as a private residence.

http://www.lakejunaluska.com/events.aspx?id=10652

Scroll down to page 3 on this link:

http://www.sejumc.org/uploadedFiles/Community/Organizations/LVN_Mar_10_newsletter.pdf

Wesley

onequiknova · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:27 pm

robertmacdowell wrote:

I recognized it immediately as an Ann Arbor caboose, but with messed up windows. That rhymes with Wabash, since they were in common control.

It seems the Ann Arbor and the Wabash had the same caboose then.
http://www.chessierail.org/wabash2827.html

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Les Beckman wrote:

If this really IS a Ann Arbor caboose, what is its number? These streamlined cupola cabooses were all built by the Wabash in its Decatur shops for the AA, which the Wabash controlled at the time. The cabooses were numbered Ann Arbor 2830 - 2846. There is a nice list of these cabooses and their current whereabouts which states that AA 2846 suffered a fire and was scrapped in 1984. All others are accounted for EXCEPT numbers 2841 and 2842. Is this one of those two?

Les

I should have pointed out that when I said that all of the AA streamlined cupola cabooses are accounted for, that none are shown as being in Vermont or New Hampshire. Also, AA #2842 was later sold to the DT&I and became its number 124. Still would like to know if this pictured caboose is REALLY ex-Ann Arbor and if so, whether it is 2841 or 2842. Thanks.

Les