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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Wreck Photo
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:55 am 

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A few things stand out to me.
1. The general condition of ballast and ties in the track suggest a siding or branch line.
2. There is the edge of a row of ties in the bottom right corner.
3. What is the purpose of the tie cribbing on the lower left?
4. What is the pile of rubble (ballast?) to the right of the cribbing and under the truck?

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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Wreck Photo
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:35 pm 

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theres a building behind the car in the back ground, the crossing flashers says a lot that it is a fairly active road. It can't be around a scrap yard. It could be a news photo or someone with a camera out to record the scene. Because it has a protected crossing says its also a relatively active line but not necessarily a heavy main. Could be a small town or suburb.

All the parts laying around its a cleanup of an accident in the process of clearing.
It had to be a mid-train derailment. The accident could have been a lot messier before this picture was taken, could have been a car/truck/train collision.
The track look fixed/repaired.

There is a 2nd track in the bottom right foreground, there may be a switch nearby.
I wonder about the tie pile, could be part of the cleanup and just stacked on another.


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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Wreck Photo
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:10 pm 

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I wonder if drawings exist for this type of milk car? It's really a neat piece of railroading equipment.

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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Wreck Photo
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:05 am 

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Richard Glueck wrote:
I wonder if drawings exist for this type of milk car? It's really a neat piece of railroading equipment.


Best I could come up with Richard.
Drawing by John Giesel,maybe from July 1953 Model Railroder.
Car was built by Merchants Despatch to NYC design. Rutland also had cars built to this design. LOA over buffers is 53'8", inside length is 49' 2"


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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Wreck Photo
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:36 pm 

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Wow! Thanks for the research! She's a "looker", and would make a nice addition to any model railroad. Be fun to scratch build. At the moment, I am building two L&NE bobbers in 1/8th scale, and trying to finish my Long Island C420. A milk car would be great to run in a passenger train consist.

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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Wreck Photo
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:59 pm 

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Some other scene details that may be useful:

Note what appears to be a brand-new cement-block wall to the left of the overturned car (with, I think, two similar blocks resting against the car end). Could this be a partition wall between bays of a bulk-storage facility?

Seems to me I see fire damage. There is a small hose between the ties and running over the rail, and I see some sort of apparatus with a drum adjacent to the crossing flashers, but can't make out what vehicle the drum is attached to.

What is the item that looks like a can with a wider base than top, on its side in the foreground? Not like the milk can identified already. Likewise, who can identify the interesting piece of apparatus further forward, that looks like a tank half-buried in the ballast with a bracket and piece with three holes? That ought to be pretty recognizable once someone in the know looks at it and sees precisely how it has been broken.

The air reservoir adjacent to the 'locomotive brake shoe' has some interesting structure on its end under magnification. Radial lines, almost like vents, at the top, and two lateral holes or plugs across the middle.

What's the apparatus on the thin post, rising in front of the left end of the car? Looks like two parallel doors or lenses, with white spots above each one. All I could think of is stereo camera. Could it be a work light of some kind?

What is the little skeleton-like cage at the rough center of the picture?

I think the crossing lights might date this: they seem to be earlier than the Holley Rudd standards but certainly have that general design, and what roads used the paired flashers with elongated visors and no targets?

There has to be someone on this list who can tell us the railroad based on the rail weight and bolting pattern.

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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Wreck Photo
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:41 pm 

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This is a wreck cleanup in progress, Spike buckets are laying around, the tank looks like a wreck damaged part and left where it is in the haste to restore the track, it probably would be removed in time.

Spikes are heavy and a normal bucket seen there would have the bottom welled down by the weight in its use over time.

The half buried could easily be an air brake tank, perhaps an example of a violent collision.


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