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 Post subject: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:06 pm 

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A Uhrichsville teenager has been sentenced for breaking 28 train car windows at the Dennison Railroad Depot Museum, plus other vandalism in the area.

The teen, who was 14 at the time, was sentenced to 60 days — to be served on weekends — in the Multi-County Juvenile Attention Center in New Philadelphia. He also was sentenced to one year of probation by Tuscarawas County Juvenile Court Judge Linda A. Kate.

He was ordered to pay half of the about $6,000 total for damages during the spree on the south side of Dennison.

The teen admitted to being involved in breaking out windows of the train cars and causing damage at Trax Diner in the Depot, and Berni’s Deli in Dennison. Several vehicles in Dennison also were damaged.

Damages to the train cars and at the Depot tallied nearly $20,000. Replacing the windows was costly because of the different sizes and specialized glass involved. The Depot’s insurance paid for the total after its $1,000 deductible. The teen is to pay half of the deductible.

He and another teen, also of Uhrichsville, admitted to the incidents, according to investigators.

The second teen faces felony charges of vandalism and criminal damaging, because of the financial amount of the damages, according to investigators. He is scheduled for a pre-trial hearing Jan. 2 before Judge Elizabeth Lehigh Thomakos in county Common Pleas Court in New Philadelphia.


More at the link. They were caught with the help of surveillance cameras.


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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:09 pm 

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In 2010, I started the repainting of a 1910 Pullman-built heavyweight passenger coach at HVRM, of which I am a partial owner. In the spring of 2011, vandals broke a number of windows on the car, and did other damage to various pieces of museum equipment. Fortunately, the act of vandalism was caught on a museum security camera and the local police recognized the perpetrators. This went through the local court system and this year, the families of these underage kids, were told to repay for the damages caused, and restitution was eventually made. I was finally able to start the repainting of the car late this summer, but only after over all of the windows were replaced. I needed to repaint the side originally finished, but now cold weather has shut down my work on the other side of the car until next Spring. In this case, the end result worked out okay, unless you consider the original wasted effort, the damage I discovered AFTER I gave the original estimate for the courts and the fact that the car sat with the "temporarily" plastic sheeted windows which visitors had to look at during that time.

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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
The teen is to pay half of the deductible.

Seriously, half the deductible? The car owner must have had a crummy insurance carrier if they didn't pursue for all of it. Any good carrier has a responsibility to subrograte for all the deductible, no matter how long it takes, to recover it for the property owner! That's a pretty messed up decision from the court...

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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:06 pm 

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p51 wrote:
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
The teen is to pay half of the deductible.

Seriously, half the deductible?



Yes, HALF.
There were TWO vandals, and the cost of the damage would be properly split between the 2 young hooligans.

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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:10 pm 

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I suspect the other teen charged is going to be sentenced to pay the other half.

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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:11 pm 
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Jdelhaye wrote:
There were TWO vandals
Ooops, didn't catch that originally.
It's actually common for when kids get busted for stuff like this, for the courts to be really light on them in regards for their financial responsibility. "I know you caused five grand of damages, junior, but darn it, you're just a kid; let's just call it fifty bucks and you can go on your way, okay?" I thought incorrectly that had been the case here.

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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:52 pm 

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Where does the 6000 come from if the damage was 20,000? They should each be responsible for half and after reimbursing the victim's deductible payment, make payment to the insurance company. If it will take a long time to make restitution, there should be interest.

I suppose this is just the criminal adjudication and the victim and insurance provider can always go after them civilly for the difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:30 pm 

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Isn't this the breakin that happened there a couple years ago?


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 Post subject: Re: Sometimes they get the vandals.....
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:22 pm 
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Les Beckman wrote:
Fortunately, the act of vandalism was caught on a museum security camera...

See here http://www.staples.com/Night-Owl-8BL-85 ... ze=certona Maybe more people in the railroad preservation business should understand there are different kinds of threats to equipment than rust and while a pole barn will help with the rust these will help with the vandals.


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