V&T #12 to the UK?

robertjohndavis · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:10 am **Posts:** 2499

An interesting thread cropped up on Trainorders a few days ago about a one-year trade between the California State Railroad Museum and the UK's National Railway Museum that would send Virginia & Truckee #12 to England in exchange for a British 0-6-0.

Anyone have insights that would raise this beyond the "rumor" level?

Rob

KevinM · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:42 pm

I did see that discussion on TO, but nowhere was there any mention regarding the motivation behind such a swap. It left me scratching my head.

The V&T Locomotive involved would appear to be this one: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=346207&nseq=189

/Kevin

Dennis Storzek · **Posted:** Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:40 pm

The British 0-6-0 would appear to be this one:

jayo · **Joined:** Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:01 am **Posts:** 19

robertjohndavis wrote:

Anyone have insights that would raise this beyond the "rumor" level?

Rob

I asked the CA State Railroad Museum about this. I'm afraid the answer I was given actually lowers this to the "false rumor" level. This is what they said about it...

"You shouldn't listen to rumors, [me]. That one sounds particularly ridiculous."

So there you have it, it ain't gonna happen!

Bobharbison · **Joined:** Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:42 pm **Posts:** 3011

jayo wrote:

robertjohndavis wrote:

Anyone have insights that would raise this beyond the "rumor" level?

Rob

I asked the CA State Railroad Museum about this. I'm afraid the answer I was given actually lowers this to the "false rumor" level. This is what they said about it...

"You shouldn't listen to rumors, [me]. That one sounds particularly ridiculous."

So there you have it, it ain't gonna happen!

WHO did you ask? The person at the ticket counter? One of the docents? Somebody who actually has the authority to know the answer?

For that matter, the more they deny it, the more often it seems to be true, LOL!

Although I have to admit that this one does seem rather unlikely to me as well.

Alexander D. Mitchell IV · **Posted:** Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:46 pm

Unlikely, yes.

But they've hosted a British steamer from the NRM before, for the 1991 Railfair. (I think it was Great Northern 1247: http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomo ... splay=4558 )

Not impossible.

wilkinsd · **Posted:** Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:49 pm

Bobharbison wrote:

For that matter, the more they deny it, the more often it seems to be true, LOL!

Although I have to admit that this one does seem rather unlikely to me as well.

Ahh, the old "absense of evidence of the conspiracy is evidence of the conspiracy."

Mark Z. Yerkes · **Joined:** Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:47 pm **Posts:** 486

In this field of interest (railroad preservation), I've come to the realization that the more a group denies a particular rumor, the greater chance said rumor has of being true. Also, if a group repeatedly refuses to comment on a rumor or story, the rumor, once again, has a very good chance of being true.

jayo · **Joined:** Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:01 am **Posts:** 19

Mark Z. Yerkes wrote:

In this field of interest (railroad preservation), I've come to the realization that the more a group denies a particular rumor, the greater chance said rumor has of being true. Also, if a group repeatedly refuses to comment on a rumor or story, the rumor, once again, has a very good chance of being true.

I don't know... In this case, the idea that the CSRM would consider taking one of its prized engines(the Genoa of all engines!) out to send it somewhere with no relevance to it whatsoever, in exchange for something that would be out of place...

The CSRM wasn't interested in letting the miniature Sonoma go back to the ON&P, not even on loan! If they weren't willing to give that engine away, what would make someone think the museum would part with the Genoa?