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 Post subject: Re: Canadian National Heavyweight Commuter Cars
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:40 am 

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Howard P. wrote:
Ahhhhh..... we have a bit of experience with these things.

The pictured 4992 now has a rubber roof, which was the subject of some postings here a few months ago--- search for "EPDM roof" and it should come up.

4990 is now in the shop, getting a quick paint job and some roof attention.

The "4900" number series was commonly used for Montreal commuter service. Some cars retained their original long-distance coach numbers in that service. Most of the cars in Montreal commuter service were originally coaches. Some had large "smoking rooms" at one end (16 seats in there), many were air conditioned with ice in the late 1930s. There were a few cars in the 4900 series that started life as "colonist" sleepers (130 of these orginally built in 1919, CNR 2750 to 2879) and were converted to coaches. 4959 to 4974 became first class coaches, then went into commuter service with no number change.

There are two excellent books about CNR passenger cars published by Bytown Railway Society, and they have detailed rosters showing renumbersing, orginal configurations, etc.

For example, our 4990 was originally 5114, 4992 was 5089, our 4980 was 5072. These were always coaches, not colonist cars.

They are good cars and ride very well; removing the "school bus windows" was important as that opened up an area that trapped water on the window sills and window posts. Roller bearings and "E" couplers are a plus, in my opinion.

Howard P.



Many of the 4900's were used in commuter service out of Toronto on the Toronto Hamilton run until May of 1967 when GO Transit began service with new, Hawker-Siddeley cars. Some of the 4900's remained in other local services such as Toronto -Guelph, Toronto - Markham and Toronto - Barrie for a few more years. Presumably, some of these ended up in the Montreal commuter pool.

Gord


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 Post subject: Re: Canadian National Heavyweight Commuter Cars
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:32 am 

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Thanks to Howard for linking this thread in the new one about 5114. I was stuck in the hospital at the time and didn't notice it when I escaped...

At RMEO, we have a number of CN heavyweights, several of them last used as commuter cars on the Mount Royal line.

5019, former First Class Coach:

http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... 06-vi.html
http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... 06-vi.html

5032, former First Class Coach:

http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... g1979.html

5042, former First Class Coach:

http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... g1978.html

We used to have 4997, ex 5047, which had served as a Toronto commuter car prior to the startup of GO Transit. After that, it served in Montreal. Unfortunately, this car was heavily damaged by arson and was subsequently scrapped.

5802, former Combination First & Second Class Coach:

http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... /5802.html

Other CN heavyweights in our collection:

CN RPO #9716:

http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... 6_2nd.html

CN Combine 7195, formerly a Colonist Sleeper:

http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... ine-4.html

CN Dental Car, formerly Canadian Northern sleeper "Camrose":

http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo ... 1copy.html

Steve Hunter

RMEO Web Site: http://rmeo.org/
RMEO FaceBook Page: https://www.facebook.com/rmeo.smithsfalls
RMEO "Smiths Falls Railway History Project" site: http://rmeo.org/hist_proj/
RMEO Photo Albums: http://public.fotki.com/elliottd/sfrmeo/


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 Post subject: Re: Canadian National Heavyweight Commuter Cars
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:07 pm 
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NCTM has 4953 and 4955. They were painted a dark maroon and lettered CNW for a movie. They are used in the museum's train regularly. We did some minor maintenance in both of them yesterday. Below is 4953.

A great deal of information on these cars is on this page (scroll down):
http://passcarphotos.info/Indices/CN2.htm


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