The B&O Museum in Baltimore has prepared for the arrival tomorrow of the AAPRRCO private varnish convention (staying through Sunday morning the 27th) by clearing out MOST of the tracks in the Museum's front yard/parking lot. Included are some pieces of equipment that seemed destined never to move again, including the "back line" of the Alco S2, the Patapsco & Back Rivers Baldwin, the FM switcher, and the B&A GE 70-tonner. The rolling stock has been moved off to either other locations on shop tracks or SECURE storage in a nearby CSX yard (surrounded by barbed wire fences!).

Still remaining in the yard at the moment are the four "Thomas" open cars (to be removed, I'm sure), C&O 2705, C&O 1309, and B&O 4500, and AFT 1. To the Museum's credit, shop forces were out the past couple of days replacing rotted ties and reinforcing track in the yard.

Reading fans, however, may wish to avert their eyes to the sight below. The photo actually is quite a bit better than the loco's actual appearance.


lner4472@bcpl.net

There is some irony in the fact that 2101 is in Baltimore looking like she is ready for the torch. Well 4449 fared much better and is looking as good as ever in her AFT dress.

Tom

Forgotten Delaware
tom@forgottendelaware.com

2101 belongs in Reading paint and at the RRMofPa. My humble opinion. I never liked the many metamorphosis's undergone by that poor locomotive.

glueck@maine.edu

> 2101 belongs in Reading paint and at the
> RRMofPa. My humble opinion. I never liked
> the many metamorphosis's undergone by that
> poor locomotive.
LET'S HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE AT THE B&O MUSEUM GET TOGETHER AND PUT SOME PAINT ON THAT OLD GIRL,,AND YES I WOULD LIKE TO IN THE READING PAINT SCHEME,,EITHER FRIEGHT,,OR EXCURION SCHEME..LET'S HOPE THIS IS DONE BEFORE THE ANNIVERSEITY OF THE B&O... THANK YOU PAT..CPRH1b@attbi.com

cprh1b@attbi.com

Personally I like the AFT paint, and it IS histocally significant as that is the way a generation remembers her. Any one of her sisters could fill in at RRMoP in Reading livery (All it takes is enough people with $$ to buy one and donate it).

That said, to see her running in AFT paint pulling a NEW AFT would be even better...(well one can dream, can't one?)


NGDF- the truth

From another post--forgot to empty the trash--sorry

> 2101 belongs in Reading paint and at the
> RRMofPa. My humble opinion. I never liked
> the many metamorphosis's undergone by that
> poor locomotive.

You offering to buy the paint and pay the transportation costs? If so, I'm sure I can get someone to listen and accept your check.

In reality, two points: There are other relics at the B&O Museum in more dire need of paint and/or protection, including C&O 4-6-0 377 and several of the freight and passenger cars on detatched tracks under the sheds outside the roundhouse. And there IS a Reading T-1 very close to its home turf (Scranton) in proper colors being conveniently ignored by Reading fans, and yet another one--presumably still in operating condition--safe and sound in private yet safe hands only a few miles from its birthplace.

In all fairness, I can understand the RR Museum of Pa.'s relative reluctance to aggressively pursue a T-1 and the B&O Museum's reluctance to let another museum have a big, historic artifact for "free" with no trade involved. (The RR Museum of Pa. has two possible artifacts to trade: a ragged B&O baggage car--basically the only B&O representation they have--and a WM business car in mint condition--not only the only WM representation they have, but it would be the third or fourth darned business car the B&O Museum would have, meaning they would need that like they'd need another hole in the head.....)


lner4472@bcpl.net

A couple weekends ago the Central of Georgia RHS did a quick paint job to 0-6-0T Old Maude in Savannah. The museum furnished the paint and tools, the society a lot of volunteer help in a short, painless time frame. She still needs some detail work done but her appearance to the general public is now that of a cared for artifact rather than a rusting hulk. Staff had no paid time to devote to this priority and no plans for time to devote for the forseable future.

The paint job won't last forever or even as long as a real quality prep and paint job but it is wonderful to see her now. And, the CGRHS and museum both benefit from their involvlement. This is the second weekend paint job done by the CGRHS in Savannah and both were very successful.

Perhaps if there are a half dozen interested parties willing to spend a couple consecutive weekends at B&O with paint and brushes the management would be receptive to a proposal to do a quick paint job before the big event. Has anybody attempted to organize a project and approach them?

Dave

irondave@bellsouth.net

> Perhaps if there are a half dozen interested
> parties willing to spend a couple
> consecutive weekends at B&O with paint
> and brushes the management would be
> receptive to a proposal to do a quick paint
> job before the big event. Has anybody
> attempted to organize a project and approach
> them?

I just did. The decision-makers are busy at the moment awaiting the arrival of the AAPRRCO convention specials; however, I expect to run into a couple of them over the next couple of days and make sure the offer is read and understood. I offered them strictly a quick repaint to get them through the Fair of the Iron Horse. It would be YOUR responsibilities to put your money and sweat where your mouths are and come up with 6-12 dedicated workers over the course of several weekends, plus maybe funding some paint.

The biggest potential obstacle I see is that there is a GREAT deal of rust on the loco that would have to be ground/blasted off before even a sloppy paint job, lest the cure be worst than the disease.

lner4472@bcpl.net

You know another iron of the whole thing is that she was the center of the B&O 150 year celebration. The celebration featured the 2102 in Chessie paint with a matching train touring the system. Now the B&O 175 celebration is almost upon us and she looks like a basket case.

Tom Gears
Wilmington, DE

> You know another iron of the whole thing is
> that she was the center of the B&O 150
> year celebration. The celebration featured
> the 2102 in Chessie paint with a matching
> train touring the system. Now the B&O
> 175 celebration is almost upon us and she
> looks like a basket case.

> Tom Gears
> Wilmington, DE

It is easy for all of us to sit at our computers and complain. Why don't we put our money where our mouths are? Make a donation. I just did!



smatthewh@yahoo.com

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> In reality, two points: There are other
> relics at the B&O Museum in more dire
> need of paint and/or protection, including
> C&O 4-6-0 377 and several of the freight
> and passenger cars on detatched tracks under
> the sheds outside the roundhouse.

Chesapeake & Ohio #377 was built for the Cincinnati, Richmond & Muncie Railroad as their #108 in 1902, became Chicago, Cincinnati & Louisville #108 the following year and Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company of Indiana in 1910. I sure wouldn't mind the Ten-Wheeler coming "back home to Indiana." HVRM would take good care of it!

Les Beckman (Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum/North Judson, Indiana)

midlandblb@cs.com

Which paint scheme? Reading? Chessie? AFT? I'd guess that one of the latter two might be better from the museum's point of view, but would said volunteers be willing to do it that way? (I'd be willing to donate a few bucks for paint (for either the AFT or Chessie), but I'm too far away with too many other irons in the fire to be much help with the actual painting)

OSPHO rust perverter will neutralize it well enough to last through the life of a quick paint job. Great Stuff followed by a skim of Bondo can solve jacket rot short term.

I see this thread deteriorating into the usual arguments about which livery - it doesn't matter! Let the museum spec its choice.

Dave

irondave@bellsouth.net

$58,000.00.

Temporary paint job NOT an option.


lner4472@bcpl.net