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 Post subject: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:30 am 

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In March 1923, a little over 55,000 if purchased from Baldwin.


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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:06 am 

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I'll take 4. I have a copy of 1522s bill of sale. We sure spent a whole lot more restoring her than she cost new, possibly even with the dollar comparison. I think she was 69k new.


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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:36 am 

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Was there a separate invoice for each locomotive (by builder's number) in what I would imagine was a larger-than-one-locomotive order? Can't imagine SL-SF ordering just ONE large 2-8-2.

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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:32 am 

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We got the Yugo. With no frills.

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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:51 am 

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Kelly Anderson wrote:
And for #90. I wonder what option they got for the extra $352.


Sport handling package?

Special "Midnight Black" paint?

Cold weather package?

Cigarette Lighter?

Maybe the special "Samuel Matthews Vauclain Signature Edition" that Baldwin was selling that year?


Does anyone know of archival records sources of the invoices from other locomotive builders?

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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:51 pm 

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I believe Allen County Historical Society in Lima, OH has 'burden sheets' that show the summary of cost of material [steel, castings, machining, purchased accessories] for at least some of the Lima built locomotives.
We acquired a copy for Shay c/n 3345 showing Lima's cost to produce the locomotive was $19,576.00 + administrative costs.
Dont know what other 'goodies'i mght be discovered in researching their archives.

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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
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Gents: Any chance we can mutually agree to place these images in the public domain or at least grant each other reciprocal copyright grants?


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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
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IMHO, the 65 heavy Mikes of Frisco's 4100 class were both aesthetically pleasing and fine matches for their profile.

They then went ahead & ordered 20 more with the same cylinder dimensions, but with 235 lb. blrs. and a great deal more weight. The Depression came along and they wanted to cancel the order, but were stuck with it. They ended up using everything that they had availalble through WW2.

The Frisco had 4 distinct classes of Mikes:

USRA light

a few 63' drivered Consols that were given a 38" combustion chamber and modern trailing truck

The 4100 class heavy Mikado

The 4200 class heavy Mikado


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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
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"And for #90. I wonder what option they got for the extra $352."


MP3 input jack?


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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:19 pm 

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Regarding #90's sheet, what the heck does "...payable in Eastern funds..." mean? Did they use different money out west or something? ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:27 pm 

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"payable in Eastern funds".

Now that's interesting:

http://www.thehistorycenteronline.com/u ... ndence.pdf

Apparently that was stock language of some sort. I wonder if it was a relic of 19th century banking practices or related not to the currency-but the bank location being East of the Big Mo, or in specific Federal Reserve districts. In those day, out of state, let alone of of Federal Reserve district drafts could take for ever to pay.


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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That Mikado in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:56 pm 

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whodom wrote:
what the heck does "...payable in Eastern funds..." mean? Did they use different money out west or something?
Sometimes, they did. For instance, Gold Dust; or Trade Dollars, which were really bullion coins,
worth only the market price of their silver content, even though made by a United States Mint.
More likely, it meant that rubber checks should be drawn on a nearby bank, to lessen the chance
of a more distant financial house failing before the shin plaster could be physically presented
for payment. The Great Western's parent company may have maintained an account at a New York
City bank just for situations like this.


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 Post subject: Re: How Much is That #90in the Window?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:59 pm 

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And for an extra $352 I can throw in a great Smokebox Extension! Everybody is doing it!


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