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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:21 pm 

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Continuing the visit to North Lake, here are a couple of steam locomotive tender photos.
The first two show a tender sitting on trucks. I assume that this is the tender for LS&I 2-8-0 number 21, although I don't know that for sure. The other photo shows a tender with LS&I lettering on the side although it is not on trucks, so this might actually be the 21's tender. Perhaps someone will be able to look at the two tenders and advise which one goes with the privately owned Consolidation at the Mid West Locomotive Shop. Or why there is a second tender there.

Les


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:52 pm 

I only thought #21's boiler was there but clearly in your wonderful photos Les I can tell the entire engine is there. The bottom tender tank is to #21. If you go to page 1 of this topic Steven says the #21 owners are currently building a new tender frame at their shop. So I'm not sure what the first tender is, couldn't be 61's, maybe it's #16s? I know her frame and boiler left but I'm just spit balling.


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:58 pm 

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Thanks to all of you for your wonderful posts of photos etc., especially you, Les! As I posted last time, I hope to meet with Steven next month and get my first up-close look at the North Lake property. From 1998-2002, I occasionally visited a postal history friend and buff who lived just outside of North Lake, so I drove through town a number of times but never realized KMRR was still in operation. So I missed out on something I now wish I hadn't missed. Still, I hope to get a feel for what used to be sometime next month.


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:33 pm 

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The LS&I tender that is on trucks is ex-company service, hence the handrail, brake wheel and knuckle coupler replacing th drawbar. Though no numbers are visible, it is probably the X-27 or X-28 used in diesel fuel or steam supply service. The locomotive that pulled that tender no longer exists.


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:06 pm 

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PRR8157 -

Thanks for that information. Along with what SPsteambuff says about the owners of LS&I #21 currently building a new tender frame (as originally reported by Steven), I wonder if perhaps they plan to use the frame from this X-27 or X-28 for the tender on the ground? I can't tell for sure if the two are the same length or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:21 pm 

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The LS&I tender tank that is on the ground was the one that came with the #21. It is the #18's tender and was swaped when the locomotive was moved to Laona in the late 80's. The second tender was last used to steam switch in the winter and had a steam boile in the coal compartment along with a #12 Nathan simplex with a hose and nozzel attached


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:06 pm 

Thanks for clarifying guys! By the way steven, what's the current condition of 21 and 61's boilers if you don't mind me asking?


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:45 pm 

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Well, everything has to come to an end. Here is the last photo from my recent visit to the old Kettle Moraine Railway in North Lake, Wisconsin:


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:27 am 

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That Davenport is adorable! Glad to se its still around.

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:40 pm 

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GREAT photos, Les!! I'm more anxious than ever to stroll the grounds with Steven....


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:42 pm 

Steven how much for the Davenport?? Just kidding, but I love it!! Les thanks for the photos very much! Not to ask for more but did you get any of the shop itself or 21's boiler etc?


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:43 am 

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SPsteambuff wrote:
Not to ask for more but did you get any of the shop itself or 21's boiler etc?


On page 3 of this thread is a photo of the boiler of LS&I #21 sitting up on a flat car with a photo of the shop in the background. I am sure that the Shop was locked.

Les


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:37 am 

Thanks Les! Well I didn't want you to break in to Steven's shop...LOL!


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:41 am 

woah! Why did Saginaw Timber #2 spend time at the Kettle Moraine?? And I love the photo of #21 Les!
I'm hoping Steven can chime in on these questions but what does #21 need and are you doing any of the work to her? And is there any formal agreement for storage of her when completed in the future? Thanks!


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kettle moraine valley railroad shop
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:09 pm 

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The Saginaw #2 was owned by son in law of the founder Richard H. That is why it was there. This was not a museum in traditional sense. It was and is a privately owned operation. Obviously there are "museum pieces" on property. The #2 bounced around for a few years till it ended up privately owned and leased to Mid continent for the last 30 years. Cheers, John.


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