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 Post subject: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:12 pm 

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Hello this is my first post on this site.
My name is Stuart and I work for the Hunslet Engine Company in England, we are based at the Statfold Barn Railway. You can check us out on Youtube, we have the largest working collection of narrow gauge loco in Great Britain.
We have recently bought Davenport 1586 of 1917 0-4-0 tender loco from India, it was first thought to be 1733 but a bit more reseach it was found out it was ordered for Dodge and Seymounds of New York who shipped it to India. The loco is in fair condition, but we are hoping for a bit of help. We have contacted Iowa state university but had no response, does anyone know who we could talk to, to see if they have information that could help us. We have tried Erie Canal Museum but they have no drawings.
If anyone can help us in any way (drawings, castings or advice for this 7" Davenport) please could they contact me. Advice would be very welcome in particular to the throttle linkage and valve, handbrake which is missing.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:13 am 

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After buying H. K. Porter's locomotive business in late 1950 Davenport themselves sold out to Canadian Locomotive Co. at Kingston, ON around 1956.

If anything in the way of Davenport records and drawings exist, they would probably be in Canadian hands today.

If anyone has better info on this situation, speak up......


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:35 am 

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I have purchased Porter drawings from the Canada Science and Technology Museum located in Ottawa, Ontario CANADA. I found them very helpful and they had a majority of the Porter/Davenport drawings for a very reasonable price. The link is:

http://www.sciencetech.technomuses.ca/e ... chival.cfm

J.R. May
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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:58 pm 

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Thanks for the help so far, its very much appreciated. An email has been sent and we are waiting to hear back.
I would be grateful for any other help that anyone can offer, it all helps.
Below is a link to our latest open day

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFMpbiG


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:07 pm 

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I'm going to need to make a new throttle valve for a larger Vulcan Iron Works locomotive; perhaps we can help each other out. Unlike British practice, US throttles liift a spool out of a double seated hole in a casting by means of a bell crank.

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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:08 am 

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Davenport;

Speak to Antony Pcey (?) "Preservation and Reprographic Officer"

At the:

National Museum of Science and Technology
2380 Lancaster Road
P.O. Box 9724, Station T
Ottawa, ON.
CANADA K1G 5A4

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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:45 am 

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Davenport;
Speak to Antony Pcey (?) "Preservation and Reprographic Officer"


Antony Pacey has been retired for some time. You'll want to contact Marcia Rak at mrak@technomuses.ca . I don't have Marcia's direct phone number handy, but she can be reached through the museum's main number 613 991-3044 (Country Code +1). She handles most of the photo and archival requests.

Incidentally, the National Museum of Science & Technology was renamed "Canada Science & Technology Museum" a number of years ago.

Hope this helps,

Steve Hunter


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:49 am 
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Remnants of the Porter collection were split between Canada Science and Technology Museum and Library Archives Canada, with build info and elevation drawings going to CSTM and part drawings going to LAC.

As mentioned, Antony Pacey retired from the Canada Science and Technology Museum.

Try contacting Marcia Rak at 613-990-4125. She should be back in the office Monday.
I'm not sure what Davenport info they have since my focus has been on Porter stuff.

The Andrew Audubon Merrilees collection at LAC contains some Davenport info.
See Finding Aid 1325:

http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&lang=eng&rec_nbr=102280&rec_nbr_list=105476,102280,104469

You could also try contacting Larry McNally at LAC in regards to this collection.

By the way, that's a good looking Davenport locomotive. Is that the original tender?
I'd like to see more photos.

Dave


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:54 pm 

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Vulcan valve like this? Dave


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:18 pm 

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Thanks Digger Dave. I'll PM you a link to drawings if you like.

Are you in the foundry business by any chance?

dave

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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:36 pm 

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As far as we can tell the tender is original, the tender is wood framed, but is in poor condition. We have done some drawings and our carpenter is starting work on it soon. The only mod is to put a steel frame in the tender to take the pull of the drag boxes. Work on the loco wont start till next year as we have got to finish our Hudswell Clark tender loco like the one at Edavale.
We will be contacting all the organisations this week but thanks for all your help. Anyone in England on holiday in September would be made very welcome at our open day.


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:31 pm 

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Just an up date from Statfold Barn Railway in England on our Davenport, work finally got underway this week. The loco has been totally dismantled and has been shotblasted, the boiler is better than we thought but due to currant regulations way have to have a complete new one. The frames are in good condition as the cylinder block assembly but all the motion will be replaced. Measuring the cylinder bores has now relived that the bore is 8'' instead of 7'' as we first thought this has lead to another look at the Davenport build list and a better candicate has come up. we now think it is 1650 of 1918 new to Vulcan Steel Products Co, New York If anyone can throw any light on this company it wood be of great interest to us as we way comfirm the loco true identity.


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:07 pm 

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Just a quick update, first the boiler is being repaired with at the moment a new boiler barrel and front tube plate.The sides sheets on the outer box have been taken off so that we can get all the lime scale out. The wheels have been turned so that new tyres can be fitted and new crank pins as well as new eccentrics. The frames have been completely stripped so any repair work can be carried out. Cylinders have been bored and valve faces have been machined ready to go back in the frames.
Does anyone know how the hand brake work on these little Davenports we have a steam brake but no hand brake.


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:12 pm 

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Sorry, but most American steam locomotives were not originally equipped with a handbrake. Usually chocks and chains were used to secure locomotives when left unattended.

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Davenport Help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:14 pm 

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Elsa a8 wrote:
Does anyone know how the hand brake work on these little Davenports we have a steam brake but no hand brake.

I'm not sure it ever had a hand brake. None of the narrow gauge American industrial locomotives I ever saw had a hand brake. Steam brakes while hot and a chain used as a wheel chock when cold.
Keith


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