A Preserved Oddity

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

BDrotarIII wrote:

Roberval & Saguenay #17 in Boone, IA is 1 of 1.

Well, I'm not sure you could figure that a single locomotive makes a "class". Or even two locomotives. But whatever your definition might be, I seem to recall that there were two R&S 2-8-0's built at the same time to the design of number 17. But I may be wrong on that. Perhaps one of our Canadian readers might know.

Les

steamkiwi · **Posted:** Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:44 pm

My thinking in the original query was around the Tasmanian M's being a reasonable if small number (10) in the class, and to have all 10 preserved would not be common.

Easy to say one or two built, all preserved is the complete class preserved, but not in the same "class" as the M's!

Bruce

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

steamkiwi wrote:

My thinking in the original query was around the Tasmanian M's being a reasonable if small number (10) in the class, and to have all 10 preserved would not be common.

Easy to say one or two built, all preserved is the complete class preserved, but not in the same "class" as the M's!

Bruce

Bruce -

I concur that 10 locomotives from an original class of 10 is probably unprecedented in the rail preservation field. Got a picture you could post of at least one of these survivors?

Les

Howard P. · **Posted:** Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:02 am

R&S 16 and 17, while built to the same plans by Canadian Locomotive Corp (Kingston), were two separate orders; 16 was built in 1937 or 38, 17 was built in 1940 (last 2-8-0 built in Canada).

Howard P.

steaminfo · **Posted:** Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:36 am

With reference to the M class above, Simon Hutchinson, a visitor to the steamlocomotive.info site left the following information

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Notes for M class locomotives ex-TGR (M1 - M6) Engine Weight 54 Tons 4 Cwt 3 Quarters Weight on Drivers 30 Tons 6 Cwt 3 Quarters Driver Diameter 4 feet 7 inches Tractive Effort 17,090 lbs @ 85% Boiler Pressure 180 psi Cylinders 16 x 24 inches Originally there were 10 M class Locomotives and four of them (M8, M1, M6 and M2) were fitted with smaller driving wheels and renumbered as the MA class (MA 1 - 4)between 1956 and 1957 The six remaining M class locos were renumbered M3,M4 and M5 remained the same, M7, M10 and M9 became M1, M2 and M6.

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Howard P. wrote:

R&S 16 and 17, while built to the same plans by Canadian Locomotive Corp (Kingston), were two separate orders; 16 was built in 1937 or 38, 17 was built in 1940 (last 2-8-0 built in Canada).

Howard P.

Thanks Howard.

steamkiwi · **Posted:** Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:11 pm

Hi Les

Try this - from the RailTasmania site:

http://www.australiansteam.com/tas/m4a.jpg

Cheers

Bruce

Bruce -

I concur that 10 locomotives from an original class of 10 is probably unprecedented in the rail preservation field. Got a picture you could post of at least one of these survivors?

Les[/quote]

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Thanks Bruce. Very good looking Pacific, to say the least. Belpaire firebox too. I noticed the green paint. Is this what they wore when in regular service?

Les

steamkiwi · **Posted:** Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:46 pm

Les

Green was standard, although a couple were painted red for the Tasmanian Railway centenary.

Cheers
Bruce

Les Beckman wrote:

Thanks Bruce. Very good looking Pacific, to say the least. Belpaire firebox too. I noticed the green paint. Is this what they wore when in regular service?

Les