Old Steamship in Richmond?

OlafThe Red · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2003 11:41 am

> It sounds like an old Merchant Marine
> Steamer; there are still a few kicking
> around.

> One possible guess is the S.S. Independence,
> which I have heard is to be sold on February
> 26th. (She was operational with American
> Export Cruises, Kahului, Maui, HI.) I've
> posted a picture of a collection of
> postcards I found on the net; the
> Independance is on the bottom. Is that it?

> AIRSHIP, ex-Golden Bear, is also threatened
> with eviction, but I think it is still in
> Oakland, CA.

> I'm a member of the "linerslist"
> group on Yahoo, and have asked there as
> well; no answer yet.

> -James Hefner
> Hebrews 10:20a

The 3rd ship is Holland America Lines Niew Amsterdam and sorry for making this Steam Ship Preservation News lol

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Olaf The Red · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2003 11:44 am

> Does anybody know what's become of the old
> ferry Kalakala which was rescued off the
> bottom up in Alaska, and was undergoing
> preservation work in Seattle? Their web site
> seems to come up missing these days. I also
> had heard the city no longer liked the ship.
> So, now I'm ???????? Mark D.

I forget which month she is in am tro lazy to get the magizine from upstairs but She was in the British Magizine Ships Montly and she is in Seattle , and also another former American Ocean Liner/ Cruise ship in fact he last one built is entering service again

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Richard Jenkins · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2003 2:04 pm

The South American was cut up in 1992 - a sad end to a fine ship, but she was pretty far gone after all those years she spent rotting away in Camden.

Speaking of lake boats on the coast, is the hull of the old crane ship Cambria still in Norfolk? Last I heard she was being used as a transfer barge down there. I hear there is also a plan to bring the Bob-lo steamer Columbia to New York for service on the Hudson - does anyone know what organization is involved there?

And finally, if anyone could post (or e-mail) a photo of this mystery ship in Richmond, I'd be really interested in seeing it.

rjenkins@railfan.net

Mark D. · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:35 pm

>

> The 3rd ship is Holland America Lines Niew
> Amsterdam and sorry for making this Steam
> Ship Preservation News lol

That would actually be Niew Amsterdam II, no matter what they really call it. Since the original went to the breakers years ago.
Mark D.

Olaf The Red · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:30 pm

> That would actually be Niew Amsterdam II, no
> matter what they really call it. Since the
> original went to the breakers years ago.
> Mark D.
Yep and the Niew Amsterdam III sister Noordam, and the Niew Amsterdam latter became the Patriot for United States Lines a subsideary for Delta Queen Steam Boat Company owner of the Independence. In October 2001 she was given back to her original owners HAL and revirted back to her former name and is now chartered to Thomson Cruises as the "Thomson Spirit" Not bad for a 19 year old lol rite?

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Mark D. · **Posted:** Wed Feb 12, 2003 8:58 pm

> Yep and the Niew Amsterdam III sister
> Noordam, and the Niew Amsterdam latter
> became the Patriot for United States Lines a
> subsideary for Delta Queen Steam Boat
> Company owner of the Independence. In
> October 2001 she was given back to her
> original owners HAL and revirted back to her
> former name and is now chartered to Thomson
> Cruises as the "Thomson Spirit"
> Not bad for a 19 year old lol rite?

As Johnny Carson used to say with a surprised look..."I did not know that!"