Norfolk Southern SD45-2 1700

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:55 am

This is smart thinking on somebody's part. Railroaders tend to take pride in showing the colors, and heritage roads are missed. As long as NS has the company name or logo and numbering, there is no need to make the fleet uniform black and white. It's history, it's good advertising, and it calls attention to a remarkably progressive company.
Let's hope this is a trend with other great schemes.

filmteknik · **Posted:** Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:46 am

This may be a special case since they did not do a heritage fleet EL unit, presumably because the livery was pretty much the same as the Lackawanna unit. Looks like someone decided to rectify that. Were any others missed?

superheater · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:54 pm **Posts:** 2605

Were any others missed?

Ironton? Not sure if that counts?

filmteknik · **Posted:** Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:05 pm

DT&I or is there another Ironton? I thought DT&I went to GTW(CN) and Genesee & Wyoming.

wrg113 · **Joined:** Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:52 pm **Posts:** 112

The Ironton he is referencing was in the PA Cement Belt region. How about Lehigh & Hudson River and the Lehigh & New England? They count as definite missing units in my book.

Paul-NC · **Joined:** Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:26 am **Posts:** 60

The Atlantic and East Carolina Railroad does not have a heritage locomotive.

Their diesels were yellow and green with red stripes.

Reading T1 2124 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:36 pm

superheater wrote:

Were any others missed?

Ironton? Not sure if that counts?

In my opinion it probably doesn't. The Ironton was a hole in the wall as far as Eastern Pa railroads are concerned. I believe the Ironton was controlled by the Reading and Lehigh Valley, warranting almost all of their equipment being ex-Reading. By 1984 the entire Ironton Railroad was completley torn up, a while before NS was on the scene. Lehigh & New England would be a good canidate for a heritage unit considering that NS owns the Cement Sceondary out of Freemansburg, the last section of LNE track with the exception of the branch from Tamaqua owned by R&N.

Ed Kapuscinski · **Posted:** Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:13 pm

The way they're going, D&H is starting to fit the bill too.

G. W. Laepple · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:10 pm **Posts:** 1182

Lehigh & Hudson River for sure.

L&NE? I don't think so. It went out of business in 1961 and parts were taken over by the Jersey Central. It was a paper subsidiary of the CNJ until Conrail happened.

LeoA · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:30 am **Posts:** 312

While CSX has a bit, I don't think Norfolk Southern operates over any former L&NE track. So there's really no point to honor a company that isn't even part of their heritage.

wrg113 · **Joined:** Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:52 pm **Posts:** 112

Norfolk Southern's Cement Secondary operates from Bethlehem through Stockertown to just north of the city of Easton. All of this trackage is ex-LNE and includes operation through Tadmor, at one time a vital location in their operation. LNE territory represents a respectable source of car volume even to this day. It is true that LNE gave up the ghost in the early 1960's, but their railroad is the direct heritage of an important part of the Harrisburg Division.

diningcartim · **Joined:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:34 pm **Posts:** 197

About half of the Lehigh & Hudson River Railway still exists. Most of it is today's New York Susquehanna & Western. The portion north of Warwick, NY is owned by NS but leased to today's Middletown & New Jersey (the original part of this line was once leased to the NYS&W, just to confuse things).

The only part of the L&HR used by NS today is the bridge over the Delaware River between Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Since NS owns no former L&HR and L&NE locomotives, I am not expecting a heritage unit for either one - but would be really happy if it happened.

robertjohndavis · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:10 am **Posts:** 2499

wrg113 wrote:

Norfolk Southern's Cement Secondary operates from Bethlehem through Stockertown to just north of the city of Easton. All of this trackage is ex-LNE and includes operation through Tadmor, at one time a vital location in their operation. LNE territory represents a respectable source of car volume even to this day. It is true that LNE gave up the ghost in the early 1960's, but their railroad is the direct heritage of an important part of the Harrisburg Division.

Agreed. Not saying that it warrants a heritage unit or not (unless NS restores LNE #611 ;-)) but it is still a significant part of the NS.

If we are going to argue heritage units by numbers of miles owned by NS, the CNJ unit is on shaky ground, as was the D&LW unit last month.

I'm laying the foam deep, eh? ;-)

CP O'Shea · **Joined:** Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:33 pm **Posts:** 121

scottychaos wrote:

LeoA wrote:

They do however have some PRR SD40's, rebuilt into SD40-2R units by Conrail..

They also have a former CNJ SD40, that was rebuilt by CR to SD40-2 standards.

It was supposed to have been in a group of NS 40-2's that were traded to CSX, for their SD80MAC's. However, I am told that NS pulled the former CNJ locomotive at the last minute, and substituted another SD40-2 in its place.

I'll leave it at that.