What a cute little engine !!! Les, that's just what you fellas need in North Judson.

Sammy -

She certainly does have a northern Indiana heritage.


Les

Les,
Here is a fuzzy photo of the lettering. Sorry, this was made with a cell phone camera.

And a close-up of the cylinder.

This raises a question. I see "1912" cast into the part, but steamlocomotive.com says, "Baldwin #33852, 1909." So I assume it is really a 1912-built loco?

This book also refers to #3 as a 1909-built locomotive. However, their locomotive #4 was a 1912 product.
Hmm... interesting...



Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=XY1YA ... &q&f=false

rock island lines -

You are right that number 4 was built in 1912. I was using the built date for IN #3. My error.

Also, thanks for reprinting this info on the railroad and especially the locomotive roster. I knew that the Indiana Northern eventually had an 0-6-0 on the roster, but this is the first factual info I have seen on that engine. Interesting that she was built by Porter and not Baldwin.

Also, by the builders number of 0-4-0 number 1, she appears to have been purchased second hand.

Les

Les,
No, I did not mean to say that you were in error. Not at all. I was wondering if this locomotive at Aledo is #3, but with parts substituted from #4.

Looking again at steamlocomotive.com now, it shows this locomotive at Aledo was built in 1909 and numbered both #3 and #4. Now I am really confused. There must be some history there we don't know about.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/0-4-0/

r.i.l. -

I think the confusion comes from J. David Conrad's books on preserved steam where he shows the number 3 as surviving, wherein it was actually number 4. Perhaps J. David might be able to comment on this some time when he gets the opportunity.


Les

Greetings:
Confusion?
Confusion from "The Steam Locomotive Directory of North America" published in 1988?
How can that be?
For those younger readers, 1988 was prior to the Internet as we know it, prior to rypr.org, in fact the magazine from which rypn gets it's name: "Locomotive & Railway Preservation" was still being published.
I would note that, r.i.l. got his information off an internet site.
It would be interesting to learn where that site got it's information.
I know where I got mine (albeit erroneous insofar as the date built, construction number and road number are concerned): I went to Missouri, found where the long abandoned gravel pit where locomotive was located, measured it and photographed it (and was surprised and pleased when it got saved).
When I found the Baldwin builders photo of "Oliver", I jumped to a wrong conclusion as to the road number of the abandoned locomotive. After Strasburg began working on it, someone from there informed me as to the correct road number, but that was a decade or two too late (sorry).
I would note that this locomotive was not listed in the book that inspired me: "The U.S. Steam Locomotive Directory" complied by the late Victor Koenigsburg. Victor gave me his permission and his source materials to do my book and is fully credited for his contribution.
"The Book" has a number of mistakes (and a couple of glaring omissions!), but I know where they are, and they will be corrected if and when the (long promised) 2nd Edition is published.
Be well,
J.David

Here's a link to one of the photos I took of this engine when it was rusting away in Pacific, MO in the late 1980s https://www.flickr.com/photos/41428530@N03/22091076264/in/dateposted-public/ Glad to see it was saved.

Mr. Petersen -

Thanks very much for those photos of number 4 when she was at the gravel pit in Missouri back in 1987. I am a bit curious as to where the lettering on the 0-4-0's cab came from. The number 4, flanked on one side by US and on the other side by RR. In other words USRR number 4. I had thought when I saw the photos of the engine sitting there in pieces in Aledo, Illinois, that perhaps the former Iowa owner had put them on the cab, but no, there they are back in 1987. Very curious as to where they came from!

J. David -

Thanks for the explanation of your efforts on chronicling the little switcher for your book. The book remains a masterpiece, and the rare fact errors are understandable considering its scope.


Les

According to a September, 2020 post on a facebook group Railroad Caboose Photos - the railroad equipment at Aledo is for sale. There are several photos of the IN # 3 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/215338678592080