Its not flashy, not an electroliner, it grunged away at a coal mine incognito, its not the last one, sounds like a historical line to me.

Whoever gets it, parts it out whatever keep note where why whatever its been.


cheers.

If Wikipedia is to believed, there are 16 other NW1s out of 661 produced still in existence, or 2.4% survival rate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_SW1

This unit might be a good fit for an operation with other EMD 567 (or similar) engined equipment, and the know how and parts supply channels to match.

Does anybody know which version 567 this loco has? It would be a perfect companion for our SW9, or a parts source for our NW2, or our NW2 could be a parts source for it. All comes down to logistics though.

It is amazing, in another thread an organization mentions spending around $87k to acquire a small GE unit, and there have been several other GE critters we have heard about on this board being acquired by preservation groups etc, but I can't remember the last time I heard of an SW1 being acquired for the same purpose. What is fascinating is that EMDs are sought after in the used locomotive market and GEs not so much. Part of it is that GE won't license their parts to aftermarket suppliers the way EMD will and new parts cost a fortune for say a B23-7 compared to a GP38, but Cummins for example doesn't charge ransom prices for parts. Still, all things being equal, you would think an EMD switcher would be sought after.

What is involved with repairing a seized traction motor bearing? What would it cost? Is it a bearing in the motor, or where the motor hangs on the axle? For moving the engine to the scrapper on the CO&E, what would have to be done to deal with the seized bearing just for that move?

Part of determining cost is your geographic location and who you know. For us, repairing traction motors was simply a matter of removing the motor from the truck and sending it to the local shop. We have a local electrical shop that does work on mining equipment, so a traction motor's nothing for them. We made a point of keeping on good terms with them, so we usually got a break on costs. If we had a parts unit, we'd supply the parts and just pay labor costs. If we were really lucky, they'd do the work as a tax deductible donation. Of course, the understanding was that they would do our work when they found time.

"Who deemed this thing a MUSEUM PIECE, anyhow?"

"Sometimes, junk is junk. Makes a good parts source for other machines."

"Somehow, I rather doubt that there is anything remarkable there, and her best destiny
might be to provide a parts source..."

"I have yet to see any evidence that this particular SW1 is significant..."

Disappointing to read those four very negative comments in a row from four different people.

As a reminder, here are a few SW1's that were restored in the past few years. Both
needed work.

Lehigh Valley 112 was moved, repaired, and repainted.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24739

Baltimore & Ohio 8408 was moved and rebuilt from the ground up. Obviously a labor of
love for these people.
http://www.mchughlocomotive.com/histori ... torations/

Here is another look at Crab Orchard & Egyptian 6 taken in 2007. Perhaps Boone & Scenic
Valley would be interested?


http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=727055

And don't forget LV #112's stepsister PRR #9206. Scott K has become a maestro of the SW-1.

Rob

The last thing that left Marion for Boone was also derilect...not a good track record of restoration since (that was former Roberval & Saguenay 2-8-0 # 17 -which had a bad dry pipe). The 17 last time I saw it was badly in need of a paint job and some basic TLC...

If they have an interest, have someone from their organization PM me, I will be happy to put them in touch with the proper party at COER.

Been watching this thread with some interest. These figures from Rick are probably very accurate. Even if a locomotive is donated, they still add up. And if the locomotive also has a bad engine that needs to be replaced (even if the locomotive is historic, especially to the railroad museum receiving the donation) it's hard to justify accepting it, especially if the museum doesn't have the resources to cover all these costs. But, I haven't yet given up.

Les

Which of those 4 statements is incorrect??

if you are wondering why this engine is significant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Orch ... an_Railway


rather colorful history there.

I don't have a dog in this proverbial fight.

But others have made the case that this is a thoroughly clapped-out locomotive, as the British say.

If you need an SW1, there are better examples out there looking for saviors.

If you want to save that particular loco, it's incumbent upon you to make the case for it, find it a future home, and raise the cubic dollars that will need to be spent upon relocation and restoration. Or, in a more ideal world, talk someone else with mega-cubic dollars into supporting its preservation.

How big is your backyard and how forgiving are your neighbors?

I am not sure how the question of whether the locomotive is “significant” is defined or how it is a relevant condition to offering it for sale. As I understand it, the locomotive is now for sale. Let the seller state the condition and let the buyer come forward.

It would be helpful to see a clear statement of the condition, particularly the items that prevent the locomotive from running or moving, if any.

If anyone out there is itching to save a piece of railroad equipment, you might want to look inward first. In this past year we have acquired two pieces of rail equipment from OTHER MUSEUMS. Both pieces were not contributing to their collections and were available. I am sure that there are going to be many more pieces that are already "saved" that either are or will become "unsaved".

I am sure that if one looked hard enough there might even be an unloved and unwanted SW-1 at a museum somewhere.