SP Flatcars Sought By California Museum

Alexander D. Mitchell IV · **Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:45 pm

Reposted from a TrainOrders post:

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The San Luis Obispo Railroad Museum is in the early stages of searching for existing Southern Pacific Railroad flat cars of F-70-7 and F-70-10. They are looking for complete cars in industrial sites, salvage yards, abandoned, on short-lines, in museums, etc. for eventual display at the museum. Leads will be investigated and any information is appreciated. Please send any leads to Brad LaRose, Curator at bradlarose72@gmail.com

Website for this little-remarked museum: https://slorrm.com/

NS 3322 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:15 pm

Does this fit the description of an SP flatcar?
I could not locate any identifiable reporting marks.

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2876

Southern Oregon Railway Historical Society (which also has the Willamette at the Medford Railroad Park discussed recently) has this SP flat car, but it isn't one of the two models being searched for. I wonder why SLO is looking for such a specific flat car? http://soc-nrhs.org/rrpark/SPflat.htm

John T · **Joined:** Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:05 pm **Posts:** 1270

Train Mountain at Chiloquin, OR has a few SP flats stored out back.
See http://trainmtn.org/piwigo/index.php?/category/64

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2876

John T wrote:

Train Mountain at Chiloquin, OR has a few SP flats stored out back.
See http://trainmtn.org/piwigo/index.php?/category/64

Wow that might be a good find for SLO, it says they are intended to be used for bridges, though they would need to find trucks if they discarded them. Chiloquin is just north of Klamath Falls on US 97.

NS 3322 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:52 pm

PMC wrote:

John T wrote:

Train Mountain at Chiloquin, OR has a few SP flats stored out back.
See http://trainmtn.org/piwigo/index.php?/category/64

Wow that might be a good find for SLO, it says they are intended to be used for bridges, though they would need to find trucks if they discarded them. Chiloquin is just north of Klamath Falls on US 97.

I emailed the Curator for SLO and he told me they would prefer, if possible, the car have it's trucks (wheels and wheel and journal bearing frame).

Bad Order · **Joined:** Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:16 pm **Posts:** 231

I've googled F-70-7 and F-70-10 to find photos, but don't find anything that expressly shows what that particular style of car looks like.

Is it a riveted steel or cast steel car?

There is a RR MofW contract (for UP, mainly) car rebuilder here in town.. they've had all kinds of flats from pre-UP railroads here working on them for the UP.. D&RGW, WP, C&NW, MP and SP cars. Some get rebuilt, some get cut up for scrap. Riveted and cast steel. Not all the cars here have their exact designation stencilled on them.. a few, but not all.

I'm a long way from SLO, so that would probably deter any purchases from this place.

PMC · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2876

Bad Order wrote:

I've googled F-70-7 and F-70-10 to find photos, but don't find anything that expressly shows what that particular style of car looks like.

Is it a riveted steel or cast steel car?

Here is one http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetai ... toID=48312 I found on a website I had never heard of before, http://www.railcarphotos.com/CountEquipSeries.php (amazing what you find when you keep following links, one must register to use it, but it is activated as soon as you register and click on a link in your email, a fantastic looking resource). That is ex-Rio Grande #464 en route to Knott's Berry Farm.

Nova55 · **Joined:** Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:09 pm **Posts:** 597

F-70-7
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/ ... 070-07.htm

F-70-10
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/ ... 070-10.htm

o anderson · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:49 pm

I am guessing that they want this flatcar to make an early piggyback display with this item in their collection:

SP Motor Trucking Trailer 3009.
https://slorrm.com/collections.html
Perhaps they might find a mate for the trailer, as often two of these were on flats. I know of 2 yellow/orange SP trailers, although they are only bodies. One is in the rail yards in Woodland CA, and the other is on private property in Wadsworth, NV. Wadsworth has a few other interesting relics around as well, including a whaleback tender, caboose, RPO, and wood passenger car as well as a CP truss bridge.

Brian Smith · **Joined:** Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:40 pm **Posts:** 21

The motel in Dunsmuir CA that uses cabooses for rooms (cannot recall its name) has a flatcar next to the creek, sitting on its trucks in the gravel and looking rather derelict. I think it's SP, but not certain.

Brian Smith