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 Post subject: Rutland 400 available for trade.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:54 pm 

Looks like the former Rutland Ry. RS1 400 is available for trade for some passenger equipment. This is one of only three extant Rutland locomotives.

http://www.railswap.org/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?search_and_display_db_button=on&db_id=2869&query=retrieval
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 Post subject: Re: Rutland 400 available for trade.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:59 am 

> This is one of only three extant
> Rutland locomotives.

Bob, besides the #405, what else is there?


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 Post subject: 4 of the 6 RUT RS-1's Survive
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:08 am 

There are four of the original six Rutland RS-1's still with us. Jim Dufour's web site (see link) has it right:

#400 as per Bob's post
#401 at a power plant in Essexville, MI
#402 on the Coopersville & Marne in MI (with a chopped short hood)
#405 home on the Green Mountain

There are no known RS-3's left from the RUT and the whereabouts of the 70 tonner is in question.

Rob


Remembering the Rutland
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 Post subject: Re: Rutland 400 available for trade.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:10 am 

Last I knew, the 402 was still at the Coopersville & Marne in Michigan. It was inoperable and had a chopped nose on the short hood end. In the late-1980s, the 404 was still at the Naparano scrap yard in New Jersey, having been sent there by a paper mill in Deferiet, NY where it was last used. At the time, there was some interest in Vermont to acquire it, but it never happened. I presume it got scrapped at that time, but don't know for sure.

> Bob, besides the #405, what else is there?


  
 
 Post subject: Rutland 70 tonner
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:32 am 

The 70-tonner No. 500 went to the Clarendon & Pittsford (Vermont Marble Co.), then to tbe Vermont Railway when they acquired the C&P. The VTR soon sold it to a WVA shortline, (can't remember name), who eventually sold it for scrap to an Ohio firm. I contacted that company in the late-1980s, and they told me it had been cut up.

> There are four of the original six Rutland
> RS-1's still with us. Jim Dufour's web site
> (see link) has it right:

> #400 as per Bob's post
> #401 at a power plant in Essexville, MI
> #402 on the Coopersville & Marne in MI
> (with a chopped short hood)
> #405 home on the Green Mountain

> There are no known RS-3's left from the RUT
> and the whereabouts of the 70 tonner is in
> question.

> Rob


ryarger@rypn.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: pic of ex-Rutland #402
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:41 am 

> Last I knew, the 402 was still at the
> Coopersville & Marne in Michigan. It was
> inoperable and had a chopped nose on the
> short hood end.

Thanks, and I've found a picture of the #402, as the Tuscola & Saginaw Bay #2394. The VRS/GMRC seems interested in it's Rutland heritage and I'm wondering why they don't try to secure a back-up for the #405?


http://www.railroadmichigan.com/tsby2394a.jpg
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 Post subject: Rutland RS3s
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 11:03 am 

All the Rutland RS3s were sold to the Louisville & Nashville after the final strike on the Rutland. They were eventually traded to GE, where some of their components (trucks mainly) were used under new GE U-boats for the L&N. When I lived in Vermont, there were a number of junker RS3s of varied origins stored at Morrisville on the Lamoille Valley RR (ex-St.J&LC). At the time I tried to interest others in creating a Rutland RS3 replica out of one of these for display, but no one else was interested. Being already caught up in my own steam project, I didn't have time for two projects, and other local enthusiasts were only interested in models and photography ("When you get it done, let me know; I want to come down and take a picture."). All the spare RS3s were scrapped on-site. Between the several locomotives, there were enough parts to make up a fairly credible replica, such as the small fuel tank, single bulb headlights, etc.. One or two (ex-New Haven, I think) even had a steam generator. I think all were roller bearing, so the plain bearing trucks of the Rutland engines would have had to have been faked with welded-on journal boxes and lids or changed out for other wheels and boxes (a much harder job, though the huge shop at Morrisville had facilities for this).

Today, there might be enough interest to have accomplished this, but at the time there wasn't and the opportunity no longer exists, at least locally, without shipping things long distances. It might still be possible to recreate a Rutland RS3 (the multiple Kennecott Copper units are a possibility), and probably an early-1950s passenger train that it would have pulled, but I no longer live in Vermont and don't have time for projects anyway, so it's a moot point.

Rutland Railway Association
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